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Jerzeecanuck
#1 Posted : 6/5/2012 2:02:43 PM

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Just got back from my full moon ceremony. I am still hung over so forgive me if I ramble.

First off, I wanted to test to see how long a batch of Jurema would keep its potency. I made the batch on the last full moon (May 5). Myself and my copilot only consumed half of the batch. I took the other half and stored it in a glass bottle and stuck it in a semi dark corner of my bedroom. No refrigeration at all. There it sat for a month until last night. We did the usual ritual. MOAI first then jurema 45min later. We started a campfire, enjoyed the view and waited.
After about an hour and a half we started to doubt if the jurema had any potency left at all. I could see slight patterns but I had to really focus or they would fade away. My copilot claimed he saw nothing. So he wanted to eat an orange (told him not to eat but people like to learn the hard way sometimes). Then about 10 min later it really started to hit both of us simultaneously. I laid down on my sleeping bag & tarp. I closed my eyes and could see the fractals becoming more clearer. My copilot then started puking his guts out and I couldn't help smile a lil bit. He later told me that the plants were laughing at him when he was puking.
I had no doubt that the potency of this brew did not deteriorate much at all. Still as potent as the month before. I could see a sea of fractals. Rotating, moving, all differnt colors. Then finally in the swirling patterns I could see entities in them. They WERE the fractals. At first I was puzzled but then I realized that I was just an entity made of fractals just like they were. The urge to purge became too great so off I went into the bush.
I laid back down and my copilot asked if I was ok. Then he asked if I saw anything. I said "I see patterns of fractals but there are entities in them." He said he saw the same thing. The entities seemed friendly and happy to see me. Some had a very strong vibe of love & peace. Some where a little angry or disgruntled. I asked any one that would listen to help heal me. Then my copilot asked if he was crazy for talking to the entities. I told him "No".
Then I seen an octopus like entity made up of brightly colored fractals. Its tentacles where everywhere. I felt it's tenacles sliding into my head. It still kind of feels like its in there. lol. I hope that's not a bad thing. It was quite powerful. After we came down my copilot asked me if I saw a strange octopus like creature. He was so amazed that I did too. He thought that maybe his mind just made it up. I explained to him that it was real as we are.It's just on a different wavelength and the jurema helps us "dial in" to their frequency.
I experienced the ego death. Sliding down the void. No body at all. Feeling like I lost everything. It was very unpleasant but I embraced the feeling. I just told myself "everything dies" to better cope with it.
After that, I seen a few more entities. They mostly seemed inquisitive & curious about me. Finally it started to fade and I fell into a slumber. My copilot woke me up when the sun was out enough to see. We compared notes on the trip and it was essentially identical. We both thought that would cool, packed up and left.
All in all, about 3-4 hours of a decent trip. I learned alot about the potency of DMT over time, the fractal entities, & of course the octopus creature.

Well I am off to bed. Thanks for reading. Leave a reply and I'll get back with you when I wake up.

Peace!!
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autumnsphere
#2 Posted : 6/5/2012 2:31:45 PM

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Jerzeecanuck wrote:
At first I was puzzled but then I realized that I was just an entity made of fractals just like they were.


A text message I sent to my best friend on shrooms:

"To realize that you are not watching the fractals - YOU ARE the fractal, and to see how hilarious and sexy that is."

SmileSmileSmile
 
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#3 Posted : 6/5/2012 2:36:14 PM

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I,ve had those octopus things quite a few times
On vaped spice with caapi .

My provisional theory is that they are some kind of highly evolved energy based organism that feeds on the consciousness of organic lifeforms Like us.

It still amazes me how they can poke around our minds without damaging us in some way.
How do they do that ????
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


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autumnsphere
#4 Posted : 6/5/2012 5:54:22 PM

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Archetypes, anyone? Confused Razz

 
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#5 Posted : 6/5/2012 5:57:05 PM

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That was great that you managed to have a shared experience on aya. It should be a very coveted experience.


Jerzeecanuck wrote:

I had no doubt that the potency of this brew did not deteriorate much at all. Still as potent as the month before. I could see a sea of fractals. Rotating, moving, all differnt colors. Then finally in the swirling patterns I could see entities in them. They WERE the fractals. At first I was puzzled but then I realized that I was just an entity made of fractals just like they were. The urge to purge became too great so off I went into the bush.


I got chills reading this paragraph. I've thought of ourselves as fractal beings before, but my mind just started unpacking tons of meaning in it. I began to think, "well our cells arrange themselves fractally, and so if cell automata is fractal, then we as entire beings are most likely fractal due to the self-recursive nature of fractal geometry, and so on...
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
Jerzeecanuck
#6 Posted : 6/5/2012 7:43:12 PM

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autumnsphere wrote:
Jerzeecanuck wrote:
At first I was puzzled but then I realized that I was just an entity made of fractals just like they were.


A text message I sent to my best friend on shrooms:

"To realize that you are not watching the fractals - YOU ARE the fractal, and to see how hilarious and sexy that is."

SmileSmileSmile


Mmmm... shrooms. Been a long time since I had some. I never seen fractal on shrooms though. Just felt like I smoked a heroic dose of weed! I should revisit that to see if anything changed.
"In fighting and in everyday life you should be determined though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness yet not recklessly, your spirit settled yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.โ€ - Miyamoto Musashi
 
Jerzeecanuck
#7 Posted : 6/5/2012 8:03:44 PM

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Felnik wrote:
I,ve had those octopus things quite a few times
On vaped spice with caapi .

My provisional theory is that they are some kind of highly evolved energy based organism that feeds on the consciousness of organic lifeforms Like us.

It still amazes me how they can poke around our minds without damaging us in some way.
How do they do that ????


Sounds like a good theory to me. We are just beings of matter, which is another form of energy (E = mc2). I had a feeling that the entity wasn't just one being but a collection of beings. Perhaps it was the collective consciousness of billions or even trillions of beings? Our bodies are but trillions of cells linked by a network of veins, arteries & nervous system. This vast network acts like a giant octopus linking every cell to create our consciousness.
Maybe that's what it was doing. Linking my consciousness to a higher level.
"In fighting and in everyday life you should be determined though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness yet not recklessly, your spirit settled yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.โ€ - Miyamoto Musashi
 
Jerzeecanuck
#8 Posted : 6/5/2012 8:14:41 PM

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Global wrote:
That was great that you managed to have a shared experience on aya. It should be a very coveted experience.


Jerzeecanuck wrote:

I had no doubt that the potency of this brew did not deteriorate much at all. Still as potent as the month before. I could see a sea of fractals. Rotating, moving, all differnt colors. Then finally in the swirling patterns I could see entities in them. They WERE the fractals. At first I was puzzled but then I realized that I was just an entity made of fractals just like they were. The urge to purge became too great so off I went into the bush.


I got chills reading this paragraph. I've thought of ourselves as fractal beings before, but my mind just started unpacking tons of meaning in it. I began to think, "well our cells arrange themselves fractally, and so if cell automata is fractal, then we as entire beings are most likely fractal due to the self-recursive nature of fractal geometry, and so on...


Yes, this is the second trip myself and my copilot took together. The last experience was also shared. Seems like a common thing when we both go into the spirit world. I wonder if it will be the same if we both vape at the same time?
Check out my above post about the theory about the octopus & how it relates to our bodies.
It makes sense now why Alex Grey's artwork shows people without their skin on.
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#9 Posted : 6/5/2012 8:23:14 PM

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Alex Grey is fukcing brilliant! What others find utterly inexpressible he manages to depict with a stunning meticulousness and clarity.
 
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#10 Posted : 6/5/2012 8:57:34 PM

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Ive never quite encountered the octopus type visuals while tripping however, I had severe hppd for a while and had geometric type octopus visuals for like 6 months. I would awake from a deep sleep and have this tremendous paranoid feeling and there would be a giant octopus type thing that seemed to be sucking everything thing into it across my field of vision...this is when I stopped taking extacy and mushrooms every weekend.
is it - 7 hits or dosing 7 times ..... Either way I lost count along time ago, and Just type/Speak without a filter.... All of this is just one big tasty 'word salad'......
 
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#11 Posted : 6/6/2012 3:17:08 AM

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autumnsphere wrote:
Alex Grey is fukcing brilliant! What others find utterly inexpressible he manages to depict with a stunning meticulousness and clarity.


New Age DaVinci. His artwork IMO is what best explains what a DMT experience is.
"In fighting and in everyday life you should be determined though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness yet not recklessly, your spirit settled yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.โ€ - Miyamoto Musashi
 
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#12 Posted : 6/6/2012 3:37:47 AM

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Ive never quite encountered the octopus type visuals while tripping however, I had severe hppd for a while and had geometric type octopus visuals for like 6 months. I would awake from a deep sleep and have this tremendous paranoid feeling and there would be a giant octopus type thing that seemed to be sucking everything thing into it across my field of vision...this is when I stopped taking extacy and mushrooms every weekend.


Doctors call it hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD). I call you lucky, because you can trip for FREE! lol. Thumbs up

That octopus entity seemed really hungry & powerful. I can only imagine what kind of damage it can do in this world.

E & shrooms every weekend? I am curious. How did you manage that??

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#13 Posted : 6/6/2012 8:50:47 AM

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I managed it by being a drug dealer and living terribly. I felt insane at the time and felt as if something was horribly wrong with me. Those visuals/ Hppd effects luckily, have gone- and have been gone for a while. Im living a life that is a lot fuller and a hell of a lot more healthy now and am thankful for it.Im sure however, that the mushrooms, that often would have been fine, just not that damn mdma bullshit.
is it - 7 hits or dosing 7 times ..... Either way I lost count along time ago, and Just type/Speak without a filter.... All of this is just one big tasty 'word salad'......
 
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#14 Posted : 6/6/2012 9:15:23 AM

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Jerzeecanuck wrote:
autumnsphere wrote:
Alex Grey is fukcing brilliant! What others find utterly inexpressible he manages to depict with a stunning meticulousness and clarity.


New Age DaVinci. His artwork IMO is what best explains what a DMT experience is.


Absolutely. Although the visual representation, no matter how good it is, lacks the emotional havoc DMT brings about.

That's a nice pic, the red one! Well, I don't think it's a harmful entity, more like... the fabric of stuff - recursively endless. Smile
 
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At first I was puzzled but then I realized that I was just an entity made of fractals just like they were.


Great one! This kinda blew my mind and I am growing to think maybe this is somewhat true. We are actually entities in a body which is made of a fractal of molecules, muscle fibers, exc.. (repeating micro objects making up fractals) So we are actually the same as the light being entities we see. (you guys see them but not me yet)
Pretty cool!
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stolenface wrote:
I managed it by being a drug dealer and living terribly. I felt insane at the time and felt as if something was horribly wrong with me. Those visuals/ Hppd effects luckily, have gone- and have been gone for a while. Im living a life that is a lot fuller and a hell of a lot more healthy now and am thankful for it.Im sure however, that the mushrooms, that often would have been fine, just not that damn mdma bullshit.


Cool. Glad you pulled out of that nosedive before you hit the ground. I never sold drugs nor will I ever. But I can relate to the insanity part! Probably why all my friends are certifiable nutcases. Lol. Ive seen people that were so hooked on mdma that they looked like zombies. Thats why I never trusted that stuff.
So in your opinion, did dmt help straighten you out?
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#17 Posted : 6/6/2012 9:49:31 AM

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autumnsphere wrote:
Jerzeecanuck wrote:
autumnsphere wrote:
Alex Grey is fukcing brilliant! What others find utterly inexpressible he manages to depict with a stunning meticulousness and clarity.


New Age DaVinci. His artwork IMO is what best explains what a DMT experience is.


Absolutely. Although the visual representation, no matter how good it is, lacks the emotional havoc DMT brings about.

That's a nice pic, the red one! Well, I don't think it's a harmful entity, more like... the fabric of stuff - recursively endless. Smile


True. Nothing in life can prepare you for the emotional havoc of a DMT trip. But living with a woman is very very good practice!
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#18 Posted : 6/6/2012 9:51:25 AM

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autumnsphere wrote:
Jerzeecanuck wrote:
autumnsphere wrote:
Alex Grey is fukcing brilliant! What others find utterly inexpressible he manages to depict with a stunning meticulousness and clarity.


New Age DaVinci. His artwork IMO is what best explains what a DMT experience is.


Absolutely. Although the visual representation, no matter how good it is, lacks the emotional havoc DMT brings about.

That's a nice pic, the red one! Well, I don't think it's a harmful entity, more like... the fabric of stuff - recursively endless. Smile


I hope its harmless. I think i still feel it swiming in my brain. Lol
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You are it. Twisted Evil
 
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#20 Posted : 6/6/2012 12:30:10 PM

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You are it. Twisted Evil


I am the fractal octopus?
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