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#1 Posted : 5/23/2012 2:24:31 PM

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I've tried 200mics before in public at central park and it was amazing(Im quite comfortable in public), was such a beautiful experience! at one point I was focusing on the wind controling the water ripples on the water and then the water ripples collectively turned into a massive mermaid water elemental covering the whole lake, it was mind blowing. This time I am planning to stay home and try 300mics... what shall I expect? will I still be able to walk around(or will my vision be enveloped with visuals? Ive been able to turn around bad trips in DMT space with accepting what it was showing and start meditating on bringing love in and be grateful etc. Will I be able to go out for a walk as well?

Note: the lsd has been tested to have 90-100mics per tab... should I do 2 1/2 instead? or go with 3... ugh in the end I know ill have to follow my gut.
 

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#2 Posted : 5/23/2012 2:32:19 PM

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At psychedelic Festivals i and friends agree much more must be taken of entheogens to effect.

We say you must have to overcome first the already increased vibration.

i have taken upwards to 900mics of good lSd in my younger years,
i should say before i met DMT
**and i suppose that i thought i had died on this dose and was in some parallel, LSD test were i had to remember or forget something to save my life and return to my body.

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now 100mics is sufficient around home or with a few beers

but at a festival i need at least 200mics to get desired effect and 300-400mics to trip

I would not take over 200mics unless i was at a psychedelic festival.

I really want to take 100mics and go on one of those tours where you swim with the dolphins ehehhehehehehehhehehehehehheplrrrrrrrr
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#3 Posted : 5/23/2012 2:36:35 PM

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awesome, yeah I think ill stick with 2 and bump it up with a hit of pot if I want to trip harder. 900 mics that's very brave Razz 10-20 hours of 900mics I dunno how I could survive that...
 
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There is no definite answer to a question like this, I have taken huge doses that were mind blowing, I've taken small doses that were equally mind blowing in their own rite. Just start small.
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#5 Posted : 5/23/2012 3:03:58 PM
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unless you are laying it yourself you really have no idea about strength, other than very subjective observations

quantitative analasys isn't easy for one hit of paper, so how was anything "tested to have 90-100 mics"
sounds like dealer bs to me
 
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#6 Posted : 5/23/2012 3:46:45 PM

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Which blotter is it? Indeed it sounds like dealer talk, and if its not, care to ask with what method it was tested?

In any case, as for the effects fo 300mics, it depends a lot not only in set and setting, as mentioned, but on individual metabolism.. 300 mics is just fine for me, already starting some interesting visuals, great for playing the guitar or listening to music, I can also interact with others ok. But for my girlfriend she would really lose touch with reality and would certainly need a sitter to take care of her.

If its your first time taking that dosage, better be in a safe environment and/or have a tripper just in case.
 
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#7 Posted : 5/23/2012 7:21:27 PM

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endlessness wrote:
Which blotter is it? Indeed it sounds like dealer talk, and if its not, care to ask with what method it was tested?

In any case, as for the effects fo 300mics, it depends a lot not only in set and setting, as mentioned, but on individual metabolism.. 300 mics is just fine for me, already starting some interesting visuals, great for playing the guitar or listening to music, I can also interact with others ok. But for my girlfriend she would really lose touch with reality and would certainly need a sitter to take care of her.

If its your first time taking that dosage, better be in a safe environment and/or have a tripper just in case.


I wouldn't be able to walk on 300. 150+ is already giving me synesthesia and other very very very profound peak effects and experiences. Out of body experiences are COMMON at this level of dosing.
 
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#8 Posted : 5/23/2012 7:51:16 PM

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Sky Motion, the OP has already taken 200ug without incident. I don't think 300ug will rock him that hard if 200ug didn't.

Then again, I've had 300ug trips more intense than 600+ ones, it's ALL set and setting. Any amount of LSD above threshold amplifies everything so much.
 
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#9 Posted : 5/23/2012 8:25:40 PM
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Set and setting can make huge differences, as well as many other things I am sure we are not even aware of.

Alone, in silent darkness will amplify the trip. It will make you more aware of it when you cut out other stimulus.

As someone who has dosed the same amount of the same batch so many times there is no counting, I can assure you there are things we don't really understand about lsd potency.

 
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#10 Posted : 5/23/2012 9:07:51 PM

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SLANE wrote:
Sky Motion, the OP has already taken 200ug without incident. I don't think 300ug will rock him that hard if 200ug didn't.

Then again, I've had 300ug trips more intense than 600+ ones, it's ALL set and setting. Any amount of LSD above threshold amplifies everything so much.


You don't know that.

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#11 Posted : 5/24/2012 5:10:12 AM

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#12 Posted : 5/24/2012 9:34:53 AM

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Sky Motion wrote:
endlessness wrote:
Which blotter is it? Indeed it sounds like dealer talk, and if its not, care to ask with what method it was tested?

In any case, as for the effects fo 300mics, it depends a lot not only in set and setting, as mentioned, but on individual metabolism.. 300 mics is just fine for me, already starting some interesting visuals, great for playing the guitar or listening to music, I can also interact with others ok. But for my girlfriend she would really lose touch with reality and would certainly need a sitter to take care of her.

If its your first time taking that dosage, better be in a safe environment and/or have a tripper just in case.


I wouldn't be able to walk on 300. 150+ is already giving me synesthesia and other very very very profound peak effects and experiences. Out of body experiences are COMMON at this level of dosing.


People like to over estimate doses they've consumed, and most like to forget that LSD's threshold is a mere 20ug. Albert Hofmann ingested 250ug the first time he intentionally took LSD, and within thirty minutes he was already completely encompassed in psychedelia.

Trusting doses by word of mouth, unless you watched the LSD get laid to blotter or watched it dissolve into a solution, is most likely drug marketing nonsense. I've had good doses that extremely experienced and respected psychonauts claimed were 130-150ug each and it turns out to be a mere 70-75ug.

Endlessness, are you sure you take 300ug and you're just "starting" to get good visuals at that dose? I experience geometric patterning over everything and breathing walls and color saturation at 150ug, with 300ug synesthesia would be so prominent that I would have no choice but to lay down and just melt into the universe. Smile
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#13 Posted : 5/24/2012 10:19:20 AM

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Yeah im sure of the amounts, I analysed it myself, but I agree with you most people dont have a clue. Even IF they saw the blotter get layed, they still couldnt know the amounts because they dont know the purity of the crystal... Analysis is the only way to know.

At 200 mics I start getting visuals but they are still very mild, I need 250-300 for it to start getting really interesting, as mentioned, but most people need significantly less. Even though the last year or two or three ive been taking much less acid than before, I think it's still the substance I most took in life (appart from cannabis), and the many times I took with others, I always significantly needed more, with the exception of just a couple of people.

Also I agree with you that most times people say some number in micrograms, it's usually half that amount, as most analysis we've been doing show. That's why I always doubt when people say how many mics unless they send to some lab to test or have their own spectrophotometer.

That being said, regardless of exact dosage, if a person is taking from the same batch and they raise the dosage (such as is the case of the OP), it's expected that the experience will be stronger, and if one is not experienced with those higher dosages, it's better to be prudent and have a sitter and a very appropriate set and setting Smile

Lastly, do note that blotter can be unevenly laid due to how it was dried and capillary action of the paper, which means even from the same sheet some parts may be stronger than others, so again, it's always good to go for prudency specially if increasing amount of blotters consumed. Liquid is a better way of dosing 'accurately'.
 
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Regardless of whatever the amount of micrograms the dose actually is, it seems rather cut and dry (to me) that people's variable sensitivities plays a huge role. On a consistent basis from batch to batch, when I take acid with my friends, and we take the same dose, I consistently trip for significantly longer with what seems like much more visual trips than my friends do. Have I seen the blotter laid? No. But this happens practically every time no matter who I drop with, making me comfortable in emphasizing the individual sensitivity component.
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#15 Posted : 5/24/2012 7:03:17 PM

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One of my most intense godhead unions was on approx 200ug. At the time I was routinely taking 900-1200ug, the kind of thing where you don't leave the couch for 4 hours. Why the intense godhead union on a fraction of that dose? I was doing a painting, talking to a (sober) friend, smoking a doob, and the conversation just went there. Kablam. Circumstances are key.

I've also tattooed (consenting) clients a number of times on 200-300ug. At 300, my work ethic is starting to get shaky.

Remember that you have the rest of your life to experiment with dosage, and that you can get a LOT from a sub-threshold experience. I'm grateful for the heroic doses I used to take in my youth, but as someone who has broken bones while shrooming, I definitely encourage caution.
 
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#17 Posted : 5/25/2012 12:55:20 AM

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I had the worst trip(first bad trip with psychedelics) ever... it started good with my friend with unity conciousness. then he started probing my private life etc... and I felt so violated and it was fucked up for the rest of the trip. I was in the darkest corners of my conciousness... I thought it would never end... was contemplating suicide at least 8 times... It was so destructive and demonic... it sucked and everything was a cosmic circus show(clown in twisted mental godhead)... and in my physical reality people started showing up out of no where and judging my thoughts it was fucked up... couldn't tell what was real anymore... I felts truly schizophrenic/psychotic for the first time... entertaining the most messed up thoughts like incest etc.... I didn't know if it was truly me or not any more... and I thought I was losing my friend and I was almost manifesting it into my waking reality.... took 24 hours for it to wear away... zomg this will take awhile to reintegrate... The power of looped thoughts is fucked up(the vortex of doom). ugh my thoughts were in sync with people around me and the cars and everything it was driving me crazy. people materializing out of no where in my reality... judging me laughing at me... just like a schizophrenic. did 2 tabs btw(ive done it before but I took a hit of pot as well and it really messed me up).
 
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Yeah nothing worse than a bad roll those thoughts wont let you catch them.

I only take LSD now when i feel it.
Getting older now any way so do not take entheogens as much.

Like that sensation you get when you are up somewhere high, to jump
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