Took 20mg of spice, put it on my copper pad, then put it in the bowl, put the lid on and hit it with the torch. Got a bunch of vapor and tried inhaling it all...held it for about 2 seconds but had to blow it out....so harsh. First time EVER smoking anything and I think I panicked a little from not being use to that feeling. Hit it with the torch again and got a lot less vapor...I held that for about 5 seconds. I felt something happening for about 10 seconds...than it just went away. I read re-xing the crystals makes the vapor a lot smoother. Maybe I need to do that.

Also, for you copper pad guys. I took the pad out after words and there are some black spots on/in the pad now. Is that the spice that was vaped? I never actually put the flame down into the bowl. I mean I pointed it into the bowl, but never let the flame touch the ceramic filter.

Was my technique bad?

Not sure what to do now. So fucking disappointing.

Yes, your technique was bad. Practice some of the tricks I have outlined here https://www.dmt-nexus.me...ers/house/DMTDiagram.png

Thanks house...I will definitely practice your trick on some mullein or caapi leaf.

Being that close to a spice trip and failing so hard is really, crushing.

You gotta practice. DMT will not absorb in 2-5 seconds. Shoot for 15-20. Pranayama (deep slow breaths) consciously relaxing the heart before going in helps a lot.

Yeah, I wasn't even close to that. After about 2 seconds I had to blow it out. Just totally not ready for that feeling at all.

I inhaled all the vapor in like 2 seconds....I know it is suppose to be a long slow deep pull right. I just panicked/freaked out/got excited or whatever and inhaled it so fast...than it started to burn and I couldn't hold it....Damn, just thinking about exhaling all that vapor and knowing it was wasted just makes me mad.

Now you know what you must do. This takes practice, meditation, and exercise. Every time you go in, you will learn something new about how to perfect this personal ritual.

Yes! I agree.

I will work on this big time.

Best of luck, behindthelight, you will get it all working!

It took me quite a few times to get my technique down! Stay in there, it comes with practice.

Also, it was your first time smoking anything, I'm not surprised you weren't ready for the feeling of it.

Don't beat yourself up.

Yeah man, thanks, I appreciate the support. Yes, this was my first time ever smoking anything. It was pretty shocking to say the least.

If you saw black on the pad after. Then maybe you didnt pre burn the crap off the pad before placing the pad in the pipe. It is important to burn the machine grease industrial chemical they put on the pad. Very simple. Take the pad with something like tweezers, scissors or pliers and hold it and burn the pad with a torch lighter until it is burning red. Do this outside because it will smoke a bit and smell nasty! Then wash it and let it dry, then it is ready to place in the pipe and load it up with spice!

Good luck!

EDIT: I heard that soaking in alcohol gets rid of the nasties but doesnt tarnish like heating does. So you learn something new every day!

Yeah, I asked Gibran before I did it and he said not to torch it, just to soak it in alcohol. So that is what I did. I'd like to know what the black spots are, I don't think it could possibly be the copper, right? I mean the flame never even comes close to touching the coppper. It has to be the spice?

Black spots are from impurities in your DMT. At vaporization temperature, DMT vaporizes completely. It leaves nothing behind. The more pure your DMT is, the fewer black spots you’ll see after vaporizing.

I like to get my DMT as pure as is reasonably possible, and I never see black spots accumulating on the copper.

Regarding heating copper to remove manufacturing oils (mineral oil) – if you use this method, apply very gentle heat! Too much heat will oxidize the copper. The oxidation may flake off and could possibly be inhaled. Since few seem to understand this, I just recommend soaking in alcohol.

while the flame didn't touch the copper the heat did, if the alcohol soak didn't remove all the copper coating stuff then heat may've vapourised it along with the spice. Don't know, its entirely possible it could just be left over spice, but with only 20mg I wouldn't expect much to be left.

Probably best to try burning off the copper pad & try again with slower steadierinhalations & see if the smoke seems less harsh.

Yeah, I was recommended by a few people to practice with some Mullein and Peppermint.