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#1 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:15:06 PM

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i hope its oke to post youtube videos.
please watch and do your best to help Smile


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#2 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:42:19 PM

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Perhaps you'd like to give some description and/or feedback of the video.
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#3 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:45:49 PM

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not trying to give a video review, just trying to share it around. Smile
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#4 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:53:10 PM

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I personally don't click random youtube videos unless there is a description that goes along with it. Youtube links are a dime a dozen on the internet. Just sayin', it would be helpful if you at least told us what it was. You might get more people interested.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:53:34 PM

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#6 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:54:38 PM

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its spreading awareness about a ugandian war lord who has been kept in the dark too long
 
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#7 Posted : 3/7/2012 1:08:37 PM

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KONY 2012 is a film and campaign by Invisible Children that aims to make Joseph Kony famous, not to celebrate him, but to raise support for his arrest and set a precedent for international justice.
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#8 Posted : 3/7/2012 5:19:29 PM

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Kony is a military leader in Uganda who is capturing young children and making the boys soldiers and girls sex slaves. The world will not put up with this. But what can be done? They (the maker of this informative film and famous people and congress) will helps us (people like you and me who have a heart) find and arrest Kony by before the end of 2012. This can be done... But it has to start by word of mouth because 99% of the world doesn't know about Kony and the crimes he is committing. The way they propose we go about it is to make him famous! We can do this!!! Join together and spread his name!! Kony 2012!!!

But it has to start with you... Watch the video and see what YOU think of this, then you will know what to do........

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#9 Posted : 3/7/2012 6:02:06 PM

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Wow! That video is going mega-viral--it's been up for only two days.

Certainly, that guy has discovered the DARKEST POSSIBLE EVIL, and he's playing it for all it's worth. I've seen interviews with kids who had experienced that before--it's like they're PERMANENTLY lost to life; horrible.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/7/2012 6:16:59 PM

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SWIMfriend wrote:
Wow! That video is going mega-viral--it's been up for only two days.


Yeah when I watched it I scrolled down a bit when it was about 15-20 minutes in and youtube said there had been like 3000 comments posted on it since i started watching.

It's good that it's raising awareness about what's going on but if the only focus is to arrest the guy and move on then it won't really help anything... it will just mean one arsehole gets locked up. Unless there is a real action plan then someone else will just take his place. I never cease to be shocked by the brutality of parts of Africa (and elsewhere in the world too, but it seems particularly widespread in places like Uganda and the Congo), but the brutality is a result of conditions and unless the conditions change the brutality will remain. I don't know how to change these conditions and I'm not convinced that America getting involved will help them in the long run. I hope it does.
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#11 Posted : 3/7/2012 6:26:28 PM

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the problem with these charities is that its almost impossible for them to be effective. For one, giving to these charitys carelessly is a good way to see your money end up in a polotician or generals pocket. The bigger problem, is the invisible children organisation is supporting the ugandan millitary as a means to get rid of kony. This is just picking the lesser of two evils. These arms are known to also torture, kill, pillage and rape.

also, what about the dozens of other tribal leaders in these regions?

the problems need to be addressed on a broader level, looking at the root of these problems and takling them: the root of poverty, corruption, civil unrest and a bunch of other problems i am unaware of myself.

dont get me wrong, all this publicity is brilliant! it brings these issues to the forefront of peoples thoughts, which is a necessity. And that is where the majority of invisible childrens money goes to (i think i read around 60/70 odd percent of money raised is towards salary, advertising and film making); to raise awareness. people have critisized this factor about the organisation, i feel its actually a possitive expendature.

However i do think supporting the undangan millitary will do no good and have no impact.
 
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#12 Posted : 3/7/2012 10:44:40 PM

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Obama campaign.
 
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#13 Posted : 3/7/2012 10:59:43 PM

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Maybe.. Just maybe... It's a bunch of malarkey?

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Or maybe it's a sophisticated campaign to lure us into WW3?



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#14 Posted : 3/7/2012 11:09:56 PM

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Honestly I find the scenario outlaid in that picture very possible, I even considered hinting at that being the case in my previous post but didn't want to start sounding all "conspiracy theory" about it.
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#15 Posted : 3/8/2012 12:48:51 AM

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A quote from Grant Oyston about the Kony campaign... made me think again

"I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to supporting the KONY 2012 campaign.

KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.

Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 31% went to their charity program (page 6). This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/5 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.

The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money funds the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission.

Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on funding African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.

As Christ Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, writes on the topic of IC’s programming, “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”

Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children funds this military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.

Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re helping fund the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.

Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on funding ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.

If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012."

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If it is just some twisted scheme image what the people will do when it is uncovered...
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#17 Posted : 3/8/2012 6:00:35 AM

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it is a sad world we live in if not only are these terrible acts going by unpunished and largely unnoticed for so long (26 years) but even worse that we distrust our government to the point that we can never be sure if people are acting with a kind heart or trying to start another war based on greed. who to believe? i do not know but hopefully the main message of the video which is to unite and stand up for a cause you believe in sinks in on a large scale and continues to trend as this is the only way to make a change.

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#18 Posted : 3/8/2012 6:45:48 AM

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Although the cause and this campaign may be misrepresented, this is still a significant step for human beings on a macro scale. Even five years ago, nothing like this would have happened. The fact that this video has gone so incredibly viral so quickly is a testament to the fact that a large chunk of people, spanning many demographics, still, at the very least, have their hearts in the right place. Yes, it may be grossly exaggerated, lacking research, and uncritically accepted, but it shows that deep within the psyches of our global populace is the deep yearning for freedom, justice, equality, and LOVE. Yes, the video is emotional, and that is why it works. Isn't that what makes our expanding world of media so powerful? The ability to use multiple mediums to invoke such a passionate, widespread outpouring of exposure and support is unprecedented.

I see these guys as doing something amazing. More than the arrest of a maniacal dictator, which in itself would be revolutionary, this is a stepping stone to a greater, more tangible connection between the people of this world, proving that indeed, a "determined minority can change the world." In fact, it's not a minority anymore. Not everyone is a critical thinker, and to wait around for everyone to sharpen their intellects to what might be considered "acceptably critical" levels would get us nowhere. That is not a reality. That is why we are where we are...People acting on impulse. We have been trained for that. Of course, critical thinking is very important to any succesful movement, but to expect it from the entirety is just unrealistic. There are many brilliant thinkers out there, and generally they are the ones organizing things like the occupy movement and actually taking the reigns, albeit only because they are the only ones capable of doing so. That said, nothing will happen without the numbers. Hopefully, through invoking the emotions of the general population, more and more people will be driven to sharpen their minds and take responsibility for their own thinking and unthinking behavior. Until the time when the entire populace has been deconditioned of their habitual, unthinking patterns, it will be up to the people who ARE critical, intelligent, and inspired to provide the best, most aware, most inspirational messages possible.

I think this media revolution is the only way to really do anything substantial against the oligarchy, and to marginalize this movement would be premature. Perhaps lending a critical opinion in the actual forum of the Kony movement would be a small contribution towards helping it evolve towards it's true potential?
 
 
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