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Pistolsdrummer
#1 Posted : 3/5/2012 11:01:07 PM

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Hello all, I have been following the boards for some time now, and feel that it is finally time for me to make my first post. SWIM just finished his second extraction from mhrb, which was much more successful than his first in terms of product yield. He has been experimenting with dmt for roughly two months now, going with different methods of vaporizing to find what works for him. He had also experimented with dosages to find the different effects, however even in his 40 mg doses, he was not breaking through, he knew this was due to technique. Then on Friday he found a technique that works for him. He loaded up 35-40 mg, and was blasted, but the memory loss from the experience left him wondering whether or not he broke through. This all changed for him last night, when he loaded a 60mg dose into a bubbler vape that had some recrytalization left in it. He through caution to the wind and went for it. First hit was huge, he had a hard time holding it in, but did for maybe 15 seconds, second hit was about the same, then he said he started losing his grip but told himself to hold on, he can get one more in. He did so, and vaguely remembers putting down his vape and lighter, and no recollection of laying back and exhaling. I'll let the rest be told from his point of view, enjoy.
I think I beyond broke through, I think I may have gone overboard.  I was gone for a million lifetimes, and was never coming back. I have no recollection of leaving, just a brief memory of saying "I chose this, I did this to myself". After that, my only memory was of "being" but I was not the me that is writing this. I was everything and nothing at the same time I was a universe that was constantly changing, spherically folding in on itself, absorbing itself, and re exploding to send out new universes and consciousnesses that would continue spherically folding in on themselves, absorbing themselves and re-exploding, to form new universes and consciousnesses. Everything that is in our world now, never really existed, it was just a part of my way of experiencing myself as something more than just myself. I created me and you and every other person and plant and animal and rock and water and dirt. But so did you, because if you are my creation, you are just another aspect of me, which means I am your creation. There was no time, there were just different slices of an infinite pie that I could see all at the same time from linear cyclical and random perspective. I lost all knowledge of language, there was no point to it because there was only me. This went on forever or one single instant, im not sure there's a difference. Then out of nowhere i was dropped out of my own universe that was al thatl I was and I was starting to come back. I was told, but not told because I had no language, i just knew, that I was separating again to go do more experiencing for us all who are one. It's like the information was just being telepathically given to me by the everything that is all of us but not in words, instead in feeling I guess..When I finally opened my eyes after millions of years, I was in my room, but seeing it in 4 dimensions of space instead of 3, and I still had no language. I could not talk, and what letters and numbers I saw around the room, on papers and the clock and tv, made no sense, they were in an alien language and i was desperately trying to understand what the point of writing and language were. When I could finally think and talk inside my own head again, I decided to try to stand  up. I stumbled a little, and stubbed my toe really hard, and it hurt like hell, but was the best feeling I'd ever felt. Like it was the first time I'd ever felt it. I literarily yelled owwww! And then started cracking up about how beautiful, something like a stubbed toe can be when you haven't felt it for a million years and I felt external appreciation for the pain as an experience. That's all I can remember, though brief flashes of things pop in and out but never long enough to hold to memory. This was the most terrifying experience of my life but I would never take it back. However, maybe I'll step back to 40-45mg next time... Still no entities yet though, which still makes me wonder if I've fully broken through, which I
Can't imagine that I didn't, but I'd love to hear interpretation of that from others with more experience than myself.
Well that was his story, what do you guys think?
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#2 Posted : 3/5/2012 11:17:21 PM

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I think that sounds like a break through to me. The next one may be completely different. The more of them you have, the more you will be able to piece together a composite memory (which may or may not be accurate in any way).

Congratulations. Very few people ever get to see what you've just seen.
 
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#3 Posted : 3/5/2012 11:25:28 PM

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Thank you Art, I appreciate the input. It is actually strange that it almost seems easier to remember/explain when writing it out than just thinking about it. I guess that's because in my head, there really are not words to describe it in entirety, but when put to paper even the bastardized version comes out a little more fluid
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#4 Posted : 3/5/2012 11:36:36 PM

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Well if that's a breakthrough your in for one hell of a ride when you doWink

Like Art says, there's not many who have been to these places, consider yourself one of the lucky few.
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#5 Posted : 3/5/2012 11:53:54 PM

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Thanks 3rdI, I feel far more than lucky, especially as a former atheist. I came to knowledge of dmt through other scientific study that led me to a belief in not really god, but more than being born, living, dying, the end. Dmt has solidified my new found belief, but also left me with so many new questions I can't even put into words yet.
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#6 Posted : 3/5/2012 11:57:47 PM

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Great report. Thanks for sharing. Peace.
"Blinded by their own sight, hearing, feeling, and knowing, they don't perceive the radiance of the source. If they could eliminate all conceptual thinking, this source would appear, like the sun rising through the empty sky and illuminating the whole universe." - Huang Po
 
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#7 Posted : 3/6/2012 2:42:55 AM
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Thank you for the report; I really enjoyed reading it and it is reminiscent of some of my own adventures with the molecule. Welcome back Pistolsdrummer! It truly is a beautiful thing that reminds us how wonderful reality is.
 
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#8 Posted : 3/6/2012 2:51:18 AM

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WAY nice report, Pistolsdrummer! I loved reading that one!
 
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#9 Posted : 3/6/2012 3:24:59 AM

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Really nice report! I've experienced similar visions.
The ever collapsing/expanding universe like time doesn't exist, everything and nothing at the same time.
All possible states and none at the same time.
I'm always speculating the similarity with quantum physics
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#10 Posted : 3/6/2012 4:05:48 AM

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Thank you all for your kind replies. I've always felt a disconnect from society, like there is something very different about me. Granted I've always had plenty of friends and and do quite well in public, but I've always felt apart. This molecule has pulled life into me and I feel it pouring back out in every direction and this site and everyone here just feels right to me. I actually just came back again, and remember nothing except yelling in my head "YOU WIN, YOU WIN" and the room just exploded with love. I don't know what I might have been fighting against or scared of, but as soon as I said you win, I was released and woke up laughing. I'm wondering if it's almost masochistic in nature to want to go back after having your ass so thoroughly kicked. And longshot, I completely agree about the quantum physics thing. It was actually the study of quantum physics that somehow wound up leading me too DMT. I can't at the moment connect the dots on how I got here from there, but it was quantum physics that led me away from atheism, and I am quite grateful. Now I think it's time for a few days off for meditation and contemplation, to show the molecule the respect it deserves. Thanks again everyone.
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#11 Posted : 3/6/2012 5:27:37 AM

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what an awesome post. swim had a hard time breaking through for a while also. thought getting a gvg (glass vapor genie) would solve this but even that had a learning curve. finally a 45 mg dose inhaled rapidly through the gvg (instead of the slower tokes required for MJ) by the 3rd inhale swim was dissolving through intense vibrations and beginning to feel my soul getting sucked out of my body. after looking in the nexus for terms on how to describe what swim saw i came to the conclusion that the central light was revealed to me that night. an engulfing ball of intense yellow light revolving rapidly and composed of smaller geometrically impossible shapes fed energy and captivating endless knowledge to me. it was an ongoing sharing between my energy and that of the light and with every second there i learned more yet knew less. to this day still the most spiritually impacting thing ive ever experienced
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#12 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:57:09 AM

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Ok, so today has been really tough. All day long, I've been having really uneasy feelings, questioning my reality, feeling claustrophobic, and just overall nervousness. I was really fearing losing touch with physical reality, and all of the sudden transcendence seemed horrifying. I don't know what it was, but the thought came to me that this might be my ego's way of fighting back against my thinking I no longer need it. I worked through this thought for a while, and luckily all uneasiness passed. It was quite a rough day, but I can handle that knowing that I learned something from it. Happy travels all.
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#13 Posted : 3/7/2012 1:03:38 AM

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Pistolsdrummer wrote:
Ok, so today has been really tough. All day long, I've been having really uneasy feelings, questioning my reality, feeling claustrophobic, and just overall nervousness. I was really fearing losing touch with physical reality, and all of the sudden transcendence seemed horrifying. I don't know what it was, but the thought came to me that this might be my ego's way of fighting back against my thinking I no longer need it. I worked through this thought for a while, and luckily all uneasiness passed. It was quite a rough day, but I can handle that knowing that I learned something from it. Happy travels all.

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#14 Posted : 3/7/2012 5:09:43 AM

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is this type of breakthrough(becoming god/universe) attainable with ayahuasca? and how much further does it go, if so?
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#15 Posted : 3/7/2012 12:40:34 PM

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Thank you SWIMfriend, that's the conclusion I was coming to. It's funny how the more we know, the more we find out we have no idea.
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#16 Posted : 3/7/2012 1:57:40 PM

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Pistolsdrummer wrote:
I created me and you and every other person and plant and animal and rock and water and dirt. But so did you, because if you are my creation, you are just another aspect of me, which means I am your creation.


Hey, wait a minute! I thought I created you! Laughing

I know what you mean though. When our ego is blasted apart, I believe we temporarily become aware of our connection to Source, Godhead, Spirit, Divine Mind, The Dreamer, etc. and take on the perspective of the Creator.

What better way for God to know himself than to divide his awareness so that he can observe objectively as creator and subjectively as creation? Wink
 
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#17 Posted : 3/7/2012 3:58:41 PM

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I'll say this, viewing from the perspective of the creator is fucking insane. It scared the living shit out of me, yet I want to go back... And the roller coaster analogy in "The Spirit Molecule", is so perversely understated its not even funny. I think it hilarious, when I first started reading about dmt, and everyone saying that no matter how much research you do, you still have no idea what your getting into, I thought there was credibility to it, but was an overstatement at the same time. My first 25-30mg hit blew my view of an overstatement to pieces. And the many times after I just had to laugh at my naïveté. But now after 60-65mg, the level of understatement in "you can not prepare", can not be put into words.
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#18 Posted : 3/7/2012 4:59:31 PM
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Pistolsdrummer wrote:
I'll say this, viewing from the perspective of the creator is fucking insane. It scared the living shit out of me, yet I want to go back... And the roller coaster analogy in "The Spirit Molecule", is so perversely understated its not even funny. I think it hilarious, when I first started reading about dmt, and everyone saying that no matter how much research you do, you still have no idea what your getting into, I thought there was credibility to it, but was an overstatement at the same time. My first 25-30mg hit blew my view of an overstatement to pieces. And the many times after I just had to laugh at my naïveté. But now after 60-65mg, the level of understatement in "you can not prepare", can not be put into words.


I know what you mean, I had an experience similar to yours at the approximately the same dosage and when I came back I couldn't stop wondering how something that impossible could ever even happen! It just doesnโ€™t seem any drug should be able to produce experiences like that. It is amazing stuff. I wasn't so eager to go back after the first time; I felt the need to integrate that one for a month or so before trying again.
 
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#19 Posted : 3/7/2012 5:14:07 PM

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Oh believe me, I'm not quite ready to go back that far just yet, especially after the little fight with my ego yesterday. I'll travel, but it'll probably be a month or two before I'll have the nerve to go that far again
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McCoyBoy wrote:
is this type of breakthrough(becoming god/universe) attainable with ayahuasca? and how much further does it go, if so?


Yes, ayahuasca will get you to similar places, though obviously the experience is not identical. Ayahuasca can go "further" in the sense that (depending on your dosage) you can comprehend the experience more because you have a longer time period to work with, along with a slower come up and come down that help to integrate the information. Both aya and crystals have incredible depth however.
 
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