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Tusk Bilasimo
#1 Posted : 2/8/2012 6:51:15 PM

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Hi Everyone have spent a some time now perusing some of the fascinating and generous contributions made by others. I have a few questions that either I haven't looked hard enough or am hoping some of you will be willing to assist me with.

Several years ago I had the great fortune of being given a box of old books that someone was throwing out and in it was the book Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock, well I couldn't put it down. That then lead me out of my comfort zone to acquire his later book supernatural and introduced me to Ayahuasca, DMT...etc. (BTW his website http://www.grahamhancock.com/news/index.php is one of the most interesting you will find)

I now find myself having read up a fair amount on the subject thanks largely to generosity of this and similar sites, I am still unclear about a few things: -

1) When reading about the traditional ingredients for Ayahuasca, the most common base ingredients are Caapi for the MAOI and viridis leaves for the DMT. But when I look at tek ingredients for DMT to be inhaled, they only refer to bark from Mimosa sp or Acacia sp. Why is viridis not mentioned?

2) I live in South Africa which was once long ago attached to South America and hence we have many plants that have similar characteristics and linage. coupled with the fact that getting hold of some of the DMT sources more commonly used its not so easy given our geographical separation as well as legal and phytosanitary regulations. Does anyone have any experience success in extracting DMT from African Acacia sp. or other plants I can source locally. Even Acacia mearnsii an invasive Australian sp would be fantastic as harvesting from this would help be utilising and reducing an invasive plant?

3) Why do the posts and literature only refer traditional sources of DMT? is it because
a) others have been tried and found to be unsatisfactory in comparison?
b) The others haven't been tried or reported on?
c) Its too risky to just try testing another source on a hunch and their are possibly serious risks?

I understand that there are always risks and that one should always proceed with caution so unless the latter is so grave that it would be foolish to even contemplate I have been considering staring with some acacia sp like Acacia Karoo or others that indigenous sangoma's (shaman) have used as local traditional medicine.

Finding local sources of suitable DMT will not only greatly reduce the pressure on current DMT plant sp but will also broaden the resources and possibly add some new nuances to spice?

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nen888
#2 Posted : 2/9/2012 11:32:13 PM
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..check out the African tryptamine acacia species list in post#45 acacia info., here... ..index of that thread here....the australian introduced A. mearnsii has been recorded once as having up to 1.2% DMT..also one successful report of A. cyclops..
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