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ayalove
#1 Posted : 1/28/2012 7:59:09 PM

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Hey nexus just thought I'd share the past three days as it seemed to have been one huge trip. It started when I posted about my nightmares. Then house posted that fear is from within. So I decided to meditate and wait for the next day while it was light outside. It wasn't until sunset that everything was convenient and comfortable so I began spicen. I started to ease myself into the extra dimension of thinking and by the time I was ready to go deep the sun had completely set. My fears slowly creeped back into my mind. Before I could change my mind I took a huge hit from the vg. Turns out I am a naive mofo. Probably the worst trip to date as soon as I exhaled I thought "what did I just do." this only way I can describe it was that I broke my brain. And I dot mean ego death I mean broke my brain! I kept thinking left was right and up was down. I thought i had to poop in order to pee and I thought I was completely broken. The. After maybe 1 minute in the tv kicks on and the new was talking about a tornado warnin then about how they found skulls from a human sacrifice. Apparently there was a religious sacrifice that happened right down the road. Anyway I was compltley terrified and I slowly eased back to normality. The next day I took some time to integrate my experience and I came to the realization that I was slightly paranoid and dilusioned. I also realized that with some work I could dissolve those fears. I also realized that the difference between dmt and aha is that aya involves a tour guide. I believe there is an additional presence that gives your reference and creates a sort of plotline for the trip while straight dmt simply plunges you into the other realm. This became evident to me because my last aya journey we focus on the delusions I had when I was a child. When I vapid straight spice I realize now I was plunged into the same chambers of my mind I had left off in. Without that guide I felt lost and "broken" and I was easily influenced by my setting (dark outside plus creepy tv)
The weird part of these past three days, and really the whole point of this post, is that the night after the trip a black cat jump down from my roof and onto my car and stared at me after I got home from work( weird Shocked ) and finally as I was comming out of bojangles I saw a light catch my eye so I looked down and as if the spice was apologizing to me there was a heart shaped diamond laying in the street! Surprised
Right now I am feeling totally awesome and I feel as if the spice is right there talking to me through these synchronicities. I'd like to hear about others experience with synchronicities. Hope everyone has a great day.
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onethousandk
#2 Posted : 1/28/2012 10:20:53 PM

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It sounds like you may need to ease into psychedelics more. Between your nightmares and fears about your trip it doesn't sound like you're in a great place to be tripping from. Take some time to find some mental peace before diving back in again. Do something creative (art, music, writing), practice some meditation, go exercise. All of these things help you find a mental comfort zone. Once you see yourself as ready to go again, if possible I would try a lower dose of mushrooms (around 2g)(or a lower aya dose since you seem to have some experience with that). It's not nearly as intense as DMT but it still reaches into some of the same parts of your mind/ego/etc. See how you respond to that, find what parts of your life you still need to work on. It's always a journey, an opportunity for growth.

I personally don't put much stock in synchronicity, mostly because there's a lot of evidence that we invent patterns where there are none. Scientific American did a great article on the topic. Many experiments have confirmed this pattern bias.

That being said I won't write them off completely. I don't think all coincidences are just that, only most of them.
 
Shadowman-x
#3 Posted : 1/28/2012 10:41:57 PM

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Actually, I think you handled your experiences fairly well. I think for psychedelic exploration you were prepared and even though you made a mistake (smoking when you weren't ready) you integrated the experience quite well, in comparison to many other people who have a bad spice experience your experience is a perfect example of taking a day off, thinking about your experience and trying to look at it in a new light. Although I don't think you NEED a guide per se to have a safer trip, sometimes a guide can be something to put the focus of your attention on to take your mind off of self generated fears and such.

I have had, and continue to have many EXTREMELY strange synchronicitys involving psychedelics, can't remember any noteworthy ones right now.
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ayalove
#4 Posted : 1/29/2012 12:08:51 AM

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onethousandk wrote:
It sounds like you may need to ease into psychedelics more. Between your nightmares and fears about your trip it doesn't sound like you're in a great place to be tripping from. Take some time to find some mental peace before diving back in again. Do something creative (art, music, writing), practice some meditation, go exercise. All of these things help you find a mental comfort zone. Once you see yourself as ready to go again, if possible I would try a lower dose of mushrooms (around 2g)(or a lower aya dose since you seem to have some experience with that). It's not nearly as intense as DMT but it still reaches into some of the same parts of your mind/ego/etc. See how you respond to that, find what parts of your life you still need to work on. It's always a journey, an opportunity for growth.

I personally don't put much stock in synchronicity, mostly because there's a lot of evidence that we invent patterns where there are none. Scientific American did a great article on the topic. Many experiments have confirmed this pattern bias.

That being said I won't write them off completely. I don't think all coincidences are just that, only most of them.

Yeah I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. I'm definitely am not ready for a full on spice experience. I think I'm going to finish extracting this huge batch of mimosa, make changa out of it and then put it into storage. That way When I am ready I can go about it a little more gently. I think I'll still make aya though, I only use it in small doses as I like riding that current while I play guitar. Anyways thanks again for the advice you and shadowman come across really warm and sincere which I really appreciate!
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Guyomech
#5 Posted : 1/29/2012 3:28:02 AM

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I like your guitar idea. I'm a painter, and have had some very therapeutic sessions at the easel on low doses of shrooms or acid. Really powerful integration experiences. You're a musician, so playing guitar in an elevated state could be one of the most magical and positive experiences available to you.

I had a great debate with this "strict rationalist" dude (I consider myself a rationalist, but of the psychedelic variety) about synchronicity. He insisted it was a creation of our minds. I agreed, but pointed out that this doesn't make it invalid. Our minds are pattern recognition machines, and we find patterns in things that are significant to us. Occasionally the depth and complexity of these patterns reveals itself in a dramatic way, in a synchronistic event, and of course we find it to be sort of magical- it hints at the incredible depth and complexity of the human story. Belief in synchronicity is not irrational- it is just a recognition of this depth.
 
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#6 Posted : 1/29/2012 7:47:36 AM

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when i began my work with ayahuasca, i took a van almost zealous approach to setting and ceremony. indeed, it set the stage for many successful journeys. I learned many things during these deep experiences. I encountered strange phenomena: sounds from the TV were warped and twisted while i was in hyperspace, as if some beings were sending me an extradimensional message.

over time ayalove, i came to believe that everything was an extradimensional message. that every occurrence, sight, and sound i heard in my daily life was part of a grand hyperspatial message, designed by the elves, just for me.
Does this seem familiar?
I began to believe these delusions with an absolute certainty.
As I put some distance between the spice, i realized that i was living in a fantasy.

In other words, you might be finding synchronicity that isn't there.
Sometimes the brain can draw connections to unrelated things after an intense psychedelic experience.
It might be important to take a step back and think rationally. A black cat, diamond shaped litter in a street, or sacrifice ceremony doesn't have any relation to you or your experiences with DMT.


This is a common problem to new spicers, a result of too much integration into 3D life.
The best thing you can do is record your experience, acknowledge the impossibility, accept that you can't understand a fraction of what happened, and let nature do the rest.

The clockwork of the universe is intricate beyond normal comprehension. You might be finding synchronicity that is not there.
The more you try to know, the more mysterious life gets..
 
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#7 Posted : 1/29/2012 1:13:38 PM

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I wouldn't be so quick to draw that distinction between vaped DMT and aya in regards to plotline with aya and being dumped into the other realm with DMT. I've had many a thick plot with vaped DMT. Now granted that the plot may have more time to flesh itself out and make itself available for integration, but the point I'm trying to make is that you probably just haven't smoked enough DMT. What I mean is that there have been a handful of occasions where after smoking DMT, I've been to some space, perhaps a sacred space, and there's some important things going on with a strong plot. Maybe later in the day, or perhaps some other month or year entirely I've found myself in identical spaces with nothing going on. It's like getting to the space, but the space is dead. There's no energy, nothing really going on. It's like someone forgot to hit the "on" button. Why this happens, I have no idea. Point is I wouldn't be so quick to draw generalizations between psychedelics. It's a natural reaction of the ego that should be suppressed (making overgeneralizations in general). [<---irony]
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