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#1 Posted : 1/1/2012 7:45:51 AM

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Hello, Guys! My love and endless respectful of free Nexians! I have solved to give this information to hope that she can turn out to be whomever useful. This information has told me my double SWIM, who travels in neutral water of the World Ocean of the consciousness. I'm sorry that English - not acquaintance of mine language, so possible inexactnesses with translation and delays with answer. And thank you for reading SWIM's text of the daydream So, here is word SWIM's:... "For my journey I use the gelatinous capsules with MAOI (Harmalas chloride from Manske TEK, within the range of doses 60-180mg) and nose spray - an aerosol with solution DMT-fumarate in solution 0.9% NaCL (the preservative no, it is necessary to keep in freezer!) or with solution DMT-fumarate in solution 0.9% NaCL + USP glycerine (1:1), glycerine - a preservative, in freezer possible not to keep. The Concentration DMT-fumarate in both solution approximately 0.35g/ml. One 'puff' = 0.1ml, You need 2-6 'puffs'. The Effect approaches quickly, in 5 minutes. The Unpleasant sensations in nose and gulp fall off through 10-15 minutes. Dignity of the method: -a Controlled intensity and duration. -Fluent and operated entry and the whole trip. -a Possibility be as required switched to contact with strangers by people and look as 'only mildly drunk person'. The Main defect - an unpleasant sensations in throat first 10 minutes, but their possible try to smooth the accompaniment of spearmint, vanillas etc.. For example, SWIM's last trip: - T=0.00 -a New Year's supper: salad, meat, pie, juice, Mate...(No other way, oooh...), - T=1.00 -Take gelcaps MAOI (0.1g), - T=1.30 -Take one more gelcaps MAOI (0.07g) -has solved to dare and intensify bodyload, - T=1.40 -Take 2+2 'puffs' for Left & Right nostril, - T=1.50 -Start Journey, open Doors to World of Light... - T=2.00 -Take one more 1+1 'puffs' (has Solved to intensify the submersion), - T=2.40 -a Decline of the first wave (?! -did not expect, go in toilet - and immediately began the second wave...), - T=4.00 -a Decline of the second wave, return 'on this side', 'treatment Animal Power' and 'Time to collect the stones', - T=4.30 -End of Journey & Vision, afterglow, impossibility to sleep... P.S -a Level of the sickness from MAOIs was very small. -All source ideas were found due to reading Nexus in current these years. -I, regrettably, have no no possibility to conduct the experiments with that frequency, on which ready my soul, but I shall give the new messages on measure of the appearance costing information..."
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#2 Posted : 1/1/2012 8:09:24 AM

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Even though that is barely legible, its incredibly interesting. I would have never thought of trying to administer dmt fumarate via a nasal mister. I've used it for a few rc psychs before, but i always thought it would be way too much dmt to try it nasally. But i guess it is pretty damn water soluble so it definitely could work. Pretty cool and interesting, even though your English is terrible (did you use a translator?) i can basically follow what you are doing. Definitely going to try this, have a few extra nasal misters, and this seems like a pretty cool way to dose.

How was the nausea compared to orally dosing the dmt fumarate? Would you say its less nauseating nasally vs. oral?

By the way, welcome to the nexus, and thank you for your useful contribution of knowledge. Very happy
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#3 Posted : 1/1/2012 11:05:37 AM

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TDTripper, thank you for welcome! Yes, Changa way - the most economical, IMHO, but SWIM absolutely have not dark closed isolation room, where his mind serenely must lost his body... -English is terrible? -Oooo! So sad. Yes, i use a robot translator. -The nausea is very small, less than orally dosing, but nausea usually at all no problem for SWIM. -So, today SWIM have one choice -nasal spray, as way to keep a reserve control of his mind during his trip. -For future, SWIM think continue his sublingually exp. with combo solution Harmalas chloride (acetate)+ DMT acetate (fumarate, chloride) in glycerol + water (1:1). It's work too, but very hard taste! (Little help vanilla there.) But need more experienses...
 
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#4 Posted : 1/1/2012 2:25:03 PM

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Sounds pretty close to the results most who use the nasal stuff have experienced. The burn is the worst part, and ends up being prohibitive for a truly recreational usage. If we (Nexians) manage to figure this out, it will be magical.

Love the trip report by the way, and I could follow your language fine. It made me smile to see phrases like "open Doors to World of Light...a Decline of the first wave...'treatment Animal Power' and 'Time to collect the stones'. A different angle on communicating yields interesting results.
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#5 Posted : 1/1/2012 4:45:17 PM

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I love to snuff DMT fumerates. I find it ideal compared to changa for what I want personally. I have been taking harmalas sublingually or a caapi/rue heavy brew and then snuffing in the dark with great results. My favorite way to work with the medicine is oral but snuffing is for sure right below oral for me. It allows more time than vaping so I can lay down and navigate the space more and ease into it..actaully it is similar to sublingual that way, though more reliable than sublingual so far-I still need to perfect sublingual so I can get it to work every time. Snuffing lasts an hour or so for me whcih i like alot.
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#6 Posted : 1/1/2012 4:59:13 PM

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SWIM will try to answer in detail about nose administration of the experience: -a Pains nearly no! There is only inconvenience deeply in nose first 2 minute. -A sensation of the expansion and pressures, which quickly fall off. They move over to lung pressure in head. (The Process will go! Like in 'Matrix' =Neo...) -'Something approach', but enxiety no! In ditto time solution begins slowly to flow down in throat. -And there is the most unpleasant sense. -A throat little pain and powerfully bitter taste. Happens to often to swallow. But this stage quickly ends (7-10 minute), but Show already began! SWIM had an experiments with MAOI =60-170mg & DMT fumarate =2-6 'puffs' and he reports that this way to administrations much linear scale. Possible try to do only one or two 'puff' without MAOI and value the sensations in throat. SWIM expects that follows to pay attention neutral reaction of the got solution DMT fumarate (without excess of the fumaric acid). Though sometime were a reports on pH balance of the nose ambience and possible follows to select pH solution individually. But in any event described variants have nothing in common with burning from DMT-OH. (SWIM did not try DMT-OH all itself). Tomorrow SWIM will post the messages forgotten detail. Enjoy!
 
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#7 Posted : 1/2/2012 11:21:08 AM

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Here is additional information from earlier made record: -Used SWIM Harmalas chloride have beside 30% uncleanlinesses (on eye). So real used value on 30% less. -SWIM cleaned DMT fumarate so: (the Note: this only description of the done work, for estimation of the purity of the material) 1) From trace and scent NP solvent: -has Dissolved DMT fumarate in small amount water, wound on tip of the needle of the syringe bit cotton wools has soak water (this it is important!), has carefully chosen whole solution in syringe. The Idea of division in that that microdrops NP solvent are not moistened by water and asses on surfaces of the cotton wool. 2) Dried got salt twice flooded the acetone, chattered, defended and carefully chose the dirty acetone by needle with syringe without cotton wool. (The Acetone was not dried specially and contained the traces of water. But loss of the total weight after laundry and dried turned out to be only 2.5%. It Was used: 2 times on 5ml acetone on 2g DMT fumarate). -For keeping in freezer of the ready solution in variant without glycerine SWIM has made the enclosed special offer from cut along silicone tube (the photo is attached). In total when freeze solution did not destroy bottle. -On sensation in nose and throat, prepared solutions DMT fumarate (with glycerine and without it) had a difference. But experiences were done in miscellaneous time and SWIM can not presently their compare. There was better each do its choice. SWIM has preferred with glycerine. -Maximum checked soluble beside SWIM for DMT fumarate in solution 0.9% NaCL slightly more 0.5g/ml (25'С) -Used SWIM concentration was below =0.35g/ml, but after two months of keeping in freezer in bottle was formed cluster crystals DMT fumarate to look like cluster crystals of the quartz, weight (on eye) around 0.3-0.5g! (Whole in solution was around 2g DMT fumarate -one more way peelings for DMT fumarate??!) -SWIM tried to dissolve the crystal before use, but when heating before 35'C dissolved it on half only. SWIM happened to to use since there is (for trip described in post #1). Consequently, real used value DMT fumarate in the same way turned out to be aproximately on 20% less! -And the last question, to travelliers: SWIM every time notices beside itself typical turning the consciousness when entering in trip and when leaving from trip. -When entering this looks as is his consciousness shrouds the cloud dark thick and little squeexing mist. Whereupon he turns out to be nearly steaming in the other measurement (where ALL possible!). Herewith, at effort, he can be focused on usual reality, which mildly stream before eye (like cover from fluid flow). When leaving from trip, he feels the soundless snub, as it is woke; waked by breaker has included the light. -And for second all are changed, he back into human world... This transition so contrasting that SWIM has solved that this looks like turning the CENTRE of the perception (the realizations) first from "right-side" in "left-side", but then back -from "left-side" in "right-side" ("usual"Pleased. =That You, Guys, about this think? Anyone have such observations?
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#8 Posted : 1/2/2012 1:10:59 PM
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This looks like something interesting to try, but as I haven't even made contact with 'normal' oral DMT experiences, it will surely take some time before I get to try this out.

But keep us posted Smile
 
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#9 Posted : 1/2/2012 2:33:24 PM

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Thank, Fizzy! Without fail!
 
 
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