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Does Music helps regards to breakthrough Options
 
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#1 Posted : 12/20/2011 9:33:19 AM
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I have tried DMT multiple times 10+ i guess, but i have only reach the breakthrough point only 4 times. Its very weird that the amount of dosage or the way u inhale or number of inhale dosn't really matter weather u can get in or not, its like DMT choose weather they want you to get in or not. Anyone here know a way of get into that breakthrough 100%?

I found out that mabye the music is the trigger, i can only get in 100% while i am listen to this music on youtube http://www.youtuberepeat...slrs&feature=related
and somehow when i get in with that music, i see similar things, all about nature, spirit, good energy, ppl working in their farm etc... also i found out that when i am there with the music, the music kinda reminds me that i still exist in this world and when i thought of that i am back, its hardly possible for me to complete having a out body experience.

ps. the best trip i got is that i went to this place, its like a big grass field, there are many spirit human and non-human like, they are just playing around with me interact with me, and by that time i am super super happy (i was never this happy in my life), its a feeling of loving, perfect harmony, joy, all positive energy, the only world i can describe that place is the world HEAVEN. and that place is 5D or 6D, normaly i see stuff that's 5D when i am on DMT, but that time i am inside the 5D, and that never ever happened again, i wish i can get back to that place~
 

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#2 Posted : 12/20/2011 10:18:23 AM

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#3 Posted : 12/20/2011 12:13:11 PM

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I find music always grounds me too hard to go deep. The real work for me is done in silence.
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#4 Posted : 12/20/2011 12:33:16 PM

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I think if you smoke enough it all disappears anyway. Also like purges said it can ground you. If your smoking technique is good then you should have no problems breaking through ime. I can't understand these I can't breakthrough threads for me it's so potent and strong, I may be sensitive though.
 
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#5 Posted : 12/20/2011 1:20:19 PM
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i find it hard to have break through 100%, i tried with different dose, sometimes i use up to 60mg+ and i still can't get in, hold in as long as possible? or mabye my stuff wasn't that great? its in yellow, like fully yellow, and smelled like lemon + DMT, the guy said that its because its extract with lemon. and i am using those glass pipe with a big hole that air would leak out.

I am interested in making a machine, but instead i am thinking of heat up the dmt in the bottom of glass bottle, and inhale after it evaporate complete in the glass in one go, u think that would help? or u have any better method of smoking it? without purchase proper tools
 
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#6 Posted : 12/20/2011 1:46:06 PM

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victa wrote:
i find it hard to have break through 100%, i tried with different dose, sometimes i use up to 60mg+ and i still can't get in, hold in as long as possible? or mabye my stuff wasn't that great? its in yellow, like fully yellow, and smelled like lemon + DMT, the guy said that its because its extract with lemon. and i am using those glass pipe with a big hole that air would leak out.

I am interested in making a machine, but instead i am thinking of heat up the dmt in the bottom of glass bottle, and inhale after it evaporate complete in the glass in one go, u think that would help? or u have any better method of smoking it? without purchase proper tools


Pony up the money for a GVG. It may be expensive but it's an investment. You'll (hopefully) have it for your whole DMT career, and it makes breaking through with small doses an easy reality.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

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#7 Posted : 12/20/2011 1:46:21 PM

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i dont find that music is good for serious journeys, it kind of freaks me out after my first big toke, i always end up turning it off. Music is however very special on lower doses.

You really cant rely on others to provide you with Spice, its easy to extract so you should get on it.

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and smelled like lemon + DMT, the guy said that its because its extract with lemon

This sounds odd to me


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#8 Posted : 12/20/2011 2:06:48 PM

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Sounds like you need the help of an maoi of some sort
Caapi tea or something like that .

Music is a real hinderance to serious work with this stuff .
As 3rdI said it can be ok for smaller doses but for deeper
Work no good in my opinion.
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#9 Posted : 12/20/2011 9:59:56 PM
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3rdI wrote:
i dont find that music is good for serious journeys, it kind of freaks me out after my first big toke, i always end up turning it off. Music is however very special on lower doses.

You really cant rely on others to provide you with Spice, its easy to extract so you should get on it.

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and smelled like lemon + DMT, the guy said that its because its extract with lemon

This sounds odd to me




Trust me, i been doing a lot of extractions 6+ times and continues, all failed, i need to get the tree right, its so hard to get the right tree n right root bark... they all look so alike, by the way in brisbane, anyone here know the best option to go?
 
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#10 Posted : 12/20/2011 10:01:19 PM
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Global wrote:
victa wrote:
i find it hard to have break through 100%, i tried with different dose, sometimes i use up to 60mg+ and i still can't get in, hold in as long as possible? or mabye my stuff wasn't that great? its in yellow, like fully yellow, and smelled like lemon + DMT, the guy said that its because its extract with lemon. and i am using those glass pipe with a big hole that air would leak out.

I am interested in making a machine, but instead i am thinking of heat up the dmt in the bottom of glass bottle, and inhale after it evaporate complete in the glass in one go, u think that would help? or u have any better method of smoking it? without purchase proper tools


Pony up the money for a GVG. It may be expensive but it's an investment. You'll (hopefully) have it for your whole DMT career, and it makes breaking through with small doses an easy reality.




are they legal to purchase to australia? i dont' want the pigs trace me down after few weeks
 
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#11 Posted : 12/21/2011 9:29:58 AM

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my good friend from australia bought one a few weeks ago. He text me 20mins after using it to tell me it was the greatest thing he ever bought.
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#12 Posted : 12/21/2011 9:33:30 AM

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Purges wrote:
I find music always grounds me too hard to go deep. The real work for me is done in silence.


this is my way also..
 
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#13 Posted : 12/21/2011 9:39:01 AM
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As a musician DMT is almost always a musical thing for me.. Therefore I prefer to have some music playing at low volume, not to block the sounds of hyperspace.
I have tried vaping in silence but it doesn't work for me equally well, I simply find music to be almost necessary to my sessions. And sometimes it's great to enjoy it with the entities and watch them "move/dance" to it. I prefer chill out/slow music, however I have even tried Iron maiden and down to the bone but because they're so powerful in musical sense, they tend to be too distracting. Something that fits with the flow is my choice.
 
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#14 Posted : 12/21/2011 2:42:10 PM
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I prefer total silence. But i have yet to try listening to binaural beats on DMT.
 
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^..i agree with polytrip..music can distract from total breakthrough IMO (and i love music!)
 
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#16 Posted : 12/21/2011 3:09:42 PM

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a friend tried it with binaural beats and connected with a wise mantis thing once.

personally i've tried music but found myself tearing headphones off too many times.
even chill music can distract and cause anxiety for me.

Many moons ago mixing spice with high grade weed I found music to be quite exquisite and beautiful
and had some amazing and memorable moments.
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#17 Posted : 12/21/2011 3:26:33 PM

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Listening to music on DMT can make for quite the ecstatic experience, and in lower doses can perhaps drive things a bit further. If I'm having a breakthrough, I wouldn't want music playing. I've had breakthroughs with music playing and it can block critical information and also put stress on the scene's and entities' abilities to do the things they're "supposed" to be doing. On a few occasions when I have broken through on music, not only could I see precisely what the music looked like, but I became myself the music. We were one and the same. It's interesting, but it can really detract from the menaningfulness of some of those "special occasions". Also in the event that you have music playing that really doesn't match the flow or feel of your experience can make things seem kind of awkward.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#18 Posted : 12/21/2011 7:20:36 PM
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Global wrote:
Also in the event that you have music playing that really doesn't match the flow or feel of your experience can make things seem kind of awkward.


That's true, I've noticed this on couple occasions. It's kind of like a guitarist hitting the wrong chord in the middle of the song. I'm glad it's rare in my experience.
I prefer musical journeys compared to my silent journeys, but I keep the music at low volume, so it's almost like both silent and musical at the same time.
 
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#19 Posted : 12/21/2011 10:29:26 PM
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Here's some blast off music:



You'll feel like the kids at 0:58 Laughing

If you watch the whole video you'll see the singer has some mad magical skillz Wink

Merry X-mas y'all
 
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#20 Posted : 12/21/2011 11:27:12 PM
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tele wrote:
As a musician DMT is almost always a musical thing for me.. Therefore I prefer to have some music playing at low volume, not to block the sounds of hyperspace.
I have tried vaping in silence but it doesn't work for me equally well, I simply find music to be almost necessary to my sessions. And sometimes it's great to enjoy it with the entities and watch them "move/dance" to it. I prefer chill out/slow music, however I have even tried Iron maiden and down to the bone but because they're so powerful in musical sense, they tend to be too distracting. Something that fits with the flow is my choice.


I am a composer myself too, and i am looking for alien music, i think i hear it once when i am on silence, every note is close by with super fast vibrate of the note link behind (i can't call the music beautiful, but i don't find it strange, i accept it ez), anyway, its a bit like techno but without the heavy beats. Plz tell me abt what u hear from there, i would LOVE to know!!!
 
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