I think we've been self-equipped with imaginations, souls, whatever you'd like to term it.. so that when the time comes...

We can flee the planet at our will.. DMT and the like I'm talking here.

I completely disagree with you.

For me, DMT is not about escapism. It is about seeing who and what I am in a brand new and vivid light. The complete opposite of escape. There is no escape from hyperspace.

When the time comes? A meteor? I'll be sitting on the beach laughing my butt off waiting for it to hit knowing full well I am going to die.

DMT isn't about escaping the planet. Nor is consciousness.

Sure, human technology may take us to the stars and beyond someday, but they aren't going to get there in dimethyltryptamine trance.

Amen!

have you had a breakthrough yet?

No no.. I didn't imply DMT was an escape from any modality of being or reality..

It's an escape route off this planet, away from the physical side of things, aka our humanness, and beyond the starry galaxy into the hyperdimensional astral imagination..


That's what I was getting at, it's not an escape from reality, it's an escape from this planet to the other side. The non-material.

And we're all set up to do this

I see what you are saying, and I still do not agree with you.

I think hyperspace is very much a part of this planet. It's just another aspect of it.

D-d-d-damn, brother. Spit it!

what about if this "planet" and this plan was just a small slice of a MUCH bigger picture, navigating consciousness would be only grasping more and more of what is.
In this way we can assume that this kind of practices allow us to "escape" this tight perception of ourselves and the world... but for coming back with new ideas about them. So I don't see lifeboats here but exploration-boats that are coming back to the GQ...

Think dimensions... I think DMT is a "perception changer". DMT opens up a whole different way to process information we normally wouldn't see in our everyday lives. We don't know how to translate and process this information yet but I think there is some type of code or info that DMT tries to show to those who partake.... ancient and futuristic.... organic mechanisms...

enough rambling for now....

This makes sense. According to one trip report where a massive amount of DMT was being IV'd into a subject it was reported as if his very spirit was leaving his body. It is also said that things such as our pineal gland are from a spiritual dimension poking into the physical dimension. Imho our awareness is slowly growing, as if a plant, into this physical dimension from the spiritual dimension. As our physical minds expand so does our awareness.

Do yourself a favor little dante and please read the FAQ https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/FAQ
That pineal nonsense holds no weight.

Whatever hyperspace is, it's somehow interwoven into this every day reality of ours. I just don't think you can really say that a single gland in a human body is poking through to hyperspace, ya know? And like I said, there's more information about the pineal gland in our FAQ. Peace.

This old argument. Is DMT taking us to a nonphysical realm that can exist regardless of the physical state of planet earth? Is it a glimpse of our new stomping grounds like amphibians hitting the shores for the first time...

Tempting fantasy. I guess we are still beating about the same bush. Wtf is hyperspace.

While i found House's grounded and brave viewpoint pragmatic, and Universalshaman's viewpoint wistful & seductive... i'm kinda hoping there's some common ground between the two.

*sigh* while im not trying to provoke bad vibes I have read the faq and I am not referring to the pineal gland as producing DMT. I am merely introducing an argument that it is possible certain parts of our brains can be located within different dimensions and DMT can be, as the poster stated, a boat, possibly transporting our awareness.

OK, what evidence do you have that certain parts of the brain are in different dimensions?

You might want to read The Travelers new policy on posting claims like that here: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=301848#post301848

Peace

guess there is no Proof but when you think about your conscious and subconscious one operates under your awareness and one independently of your awareness. According to some descriptions of psychedelics they are described as lowering your filters within the mind or as spreading the awareness from the conscious to the subconscious. The previous could be viewed as being transported from one dimension into another but that is based on what ones independent view of a dimension is. It could be a spacial dimension, vibrational dimension or dimension based upon proportion. However, if we are expected to keep our posts scientific my previous claim has no basis

I didn't mean to give you a hard time dante, I just don't want you to believe something just because- without any critical thinking involved. You know what I mean?

I'm sure existence is far weirder than we can even fathom at this point in time.

I think it's kind of dangerous to think of hyperspace as a "higher" or more "spiritual" dimension. It just leads to placing more importance on that world rather than this one. These experiences have convinced me that these deeper levels of being are completely real and available all the time, had we the ability to remove our filters and still do our jobs here in regularland.

It's easy to be creative, smart, loving, humble and grateful when you're thrown into these heavenly realms by these amazing substances. But the real challenge, the real spiritual test, is seeing if you can display those qualities in the face of a harder, slower world. We are definitely where we're at for a reason, and our world is as full of meaning and purpose as any other dimension. We've all been given the blessing of experiencing these "more perfect" worlds, yet we don't know how to make that permanent and available to everyone yet. I think our job is to believe in the impossible in our world, and act on our faith as strongly as we can, slowly narrowing the margin between "there" and "here", transforming our world into one that looks like those. Yea, nay?

If my two cents are worth anything (probably about two cents:wink I think that DMT is in a way a sort of "Random Button" for our place in the multiverse. This could mean anything from the "informational space" of your own emotions, memories, etc or some "alien" informational space, or it could be a vast realm of hyper intelligent beings who have passed on beyond the need for physical form as the Buddha described those who have reached Nirvana or what we know here as hyperspace. From my own experience I think that it is also possible for DMT to take us beyond hyperspace to other realms that connect to it such as different planets and so on. I do believe as house says that DMT and some of the entities going along with it are ingrained in the fabric of earths reality but I would go you one further to say that it is also it is our ticket into the universe, not to escape but to travel and explore. As the moody blues said " Thinking is the best way to travel". I would like to add that though some of the mods might say that this is not thinking critically, I would say though that this is quite the contrary for I have given this subject much thought within the realms of theoretical physics and metaphysics (which i know the latter is less convincing). If theoretical physics tells us anything it is that there are many dimensions that take up the same space as our dimension though they are separate from ours. These dimensions could have entirely different laws of physics and say in a non-physical dimension (which is entirely possible that these exist) follow only say the rules of the physics of light or some inconceivable laws of physics. This is in a nutshell what I believe the umbrella term of "hyperspace" to be and DMT is perhaps away of perceiving those dimensions and is in a sense a vessel for perceiving and exploring those dimensions, whether they be actual different realms or the long dark corridors of our own minds.

well, although my opinion isnt very well thought out or developed but its like hyperspace is woven into reality but on a different frequency and DMT tunes us into that same frequency. Idk stoned...

^I would go even further and say it's a different spectrum, which is composed of many frequencies, not just one.