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tobecomeone00
#1 Posted : 12/11/2011 8:17:19 PM

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Enough with entities and colors and 'occilating' shapes...have any of you had a TOTAL God Awakening, in which everything disappeared, and you realized you were the only One? That you were the devil and the gods, justice and fate, all creating an experience to distract God (You) from the ultimate knowing of Yourself? Everyone in Life is just a hyper-reflection of One. It is a feeling of bliss and agony fused together in a never-ending moment of death and re-birth....I have had plenty of 'breakthroughs' so to speak, but only two of this utter magnitude. They were one after another in a span of 3 days. Anyone experience this, and if so, please share your experience with the rest of the forum. We are evolving, it is time we speak of the Truth and the Meaning. Have a wonderful day, I really look forward to seeing what pops up!
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#2 Posted : 12/11/2011 8:27:06 PM

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To each their own, man.

You're just speaking semantics.
 
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#3 Posted : 12/11/2011 8:27:16 PM

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I think ultimately all the universe is made of is a 4d solid world created by consciousness itself. Consciousness likes company.


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To each their own, man.

You're just speaking semantics.


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#4 Posted : 12/11/2011 8:37:04 PM

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Semantics is exactly what I'm talking about, House. Everyone who has an Awakening, it is tailored to their Being in all possiblity and probability. Everyone has a different, individualized experience. What I am attempting to do is draw these experiences out of them. I feel too many details and complex wordings actually strip Ideas of their sacredness. Again, my opinion, hence, semantics. The purpose is for each member to convey their experience in the most real, personal way possible. If that means writing a paragraph that looks like a math problem, that goes too! If that means writing one sentence regarding the validity of the original post, by all means, GO FOR IT! Each and every person should be marching to the beat of their own drum. Now all we gotta do is find a tune....
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#5 Posted : 12/11/2011 8:42:05 PM

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^I agree with this.

I would have to spill my life story though. It's not something that happens over night. I don't feel like writing it all out. Maybe others can articulate their version of their own awakening.

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#6 Posted : 12/11/2011 8:42:52 PM

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I have experienced this, it is pretty remarkable indeed. But do I ascribe it to some truth about the universe based on this drug induced experience? No, I don't, and I suggest you don't either. Keep it real man, take it easy =)
 
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#7 Posted : 12/11/2011 10:10:21 PM

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In my belief, we are One with everything. I don't view it as smoking a drug to receive an experience...I view it as God smoking God to experience God. I take your suggestion with an open heart, though, for sure.

And House...I and everyone in the Nexus would be honored to hear your story! You always have brilliant things to say, even though sometimes it's blunt, your words are very productive, in the vein of "tough love", from what I see. Maybe take a minute and express your experience? That'd be awesome, no joke.

But enough of replying to my beliefs! I want to hear Others thoughts and feelings, even if they have no corelation with my views, they are still infinitely valuable to the Whole! Have any of You had a true Awakening, and if so, let's hear about it!!!
"The search for Truth is the Greatest, if not, most Sensible form of Rebellion."

 
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#8 Posted : 12/11/2011 10:26:26 PM

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Well, your beliefs are wrong. We are not one with everything just because you "smoked God to experience God", which sounds absolutely ridiculous anyway. I urge you to get some distance from your experiences, and try to remain rational when contemplating their nature.
 
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#9 Posted : 12/11/2011 10:42:27 PM

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Citta wrote:
Well, your beliefs are wrong.


Pretty rude man.
 
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#10 Posted : 12/11/2011 10:52:06 PM

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Sky Motion wrote:
Citta wrote:
Well, your beliefs are wrong.


Pretty rude man.


Why is that so rude? Are we not distinct physical entities existing amongst other distinct physical entities? Where is the unity, and what is the evidence for it? Should it not be appropriate to criticize personal convictions and beliefs when they are unsubstantiated?
 
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#11 Posted : 12/11/2011 10:54:44 PM
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I am. We are. Individual experiences are one in the same. Interpretation is what creates different views, beliefs.
I know that I am. I am therefore we are.
 
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#12 Posted : 12/11/2011 10:57:15 PM

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Citta wrote:
Sky Motion wrote:
Citta wrote:
Well, your beliefs are wrong.


Pretty rude man.


Why is that so rude? Are we not distinct physical entities existing amongst other distinct physical entities? Where is the unity, and what is the evidence for it? Should it not be appropriate to criticize personal convictions and beliefs when they are unsubstantiated?


Oh yada yada yada, you're pressing your beliefs. To each their own. Individual beliefs arise from experience, yours are obviously different. Of course it's unsubstantiated, but you're not in their shoes to make that decision are you?
 
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#13 Posted : 12/11/2011 11:03:53 PM

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So, when beliefs have no evidence, when they are unsubstantiated, they should nevertheless be free of critical inquiry? If we were to follow your logic, this means that for example suicide bombers blowing themselves up in their belief in Allah and Paradise, should be immune to criticism towards their beliefs that are used to justify such horrible actions. We should just shrub it off; "to each their own", and remain silent. This is not a very good position to take, is it?
 
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#14 Posted : 12/11/2011 11:16:50 PM

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Citta wrote:
So, when beliefs have no evidence, when they are unsubstantiated, they should nevertheless be free of critical inquiry? If we were to follow your logic, this means that for example suicide bombers blowing themselves up in their belief in Allah and Paradise, should be immune to criticism towards their beliefs that are used to justify such horrible actions. We should just shrub it off; "to each their own", and remain silent. This is not a very good position to take, is it?


That is not the position I'm taking at all. You're taking me word for word and not seeing the general picture here.

Where is your evidence AGAINST the unity? Is it just from the fact that you had an experience because of a drug?

You should try to meditate.
 
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#15 Posted : 12/11/2011 11:34:11 PM

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STOP TRYING TO DERAIL THE POST, CITTA. You made it clear of what you believe in your first post. I responded with everyone has an individual experience. I am not interested in being right or wrong. I am simply asking for the members of this forum to post their Awakening experiences, not to debate on what *I* believe, which was never the point. And Citta,your opinion is valued, but by telling another they are wrong, you weaken your own arguments by a long a shot. Just a thought to sit on. I strongly urge everyone to disregard what has been said, and focus on THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST. HAVE ANY OF YOU EXPERIENCED A TRUE AWAKENING?
"The search for Truth is the Greatest, if not, most Sensible form of Rebellion."

 
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#16 Posted : 12/11/2011 11:36:04 PM

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Try and relate your story as best you can! PLEASE NO ARGUING OR DEBATING. There is no right or wrong answer to this question!
"The search for Truth is the Greatest, if not, most Sensible form of Rebellion."

 
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#17 Posted : 12/11/2011 11:40:57 PM

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Citta wrote:
Sky Motion wrote:
Citta wrote:
Well, your beliefs are wrong.


Pretty rude man.


Why is that so rude? Are we not distinct physical entities existing amongst other distinct physical entities? Where is the unity, and what is the evidence for it? Should it not be appropriate to criticize personal convictions and beliefs when they are unsubstantiated?


Distinct physical entities? What the hell does that mean.

So what is "you"? Is it your brain? Your arm? Your whole body? Is a cell in your body just a cell or is it you? Is the water that you put in your body by drinking it, also you? Where does the self begin, where does it end? Is the raindrop that falls in the ocean still a raindrop or is it the ocean?

There is no distinct physical entities except as concept, really. Everything is interconnected, every distinct physical entity is made of smaller physical entities and also part of a bigger physical entity. Systems inside systems, parts of bigger systems.

If you see your self as a brain with a human body and nothing more, then you are blind, my friend. You don't need to see the world as anything more than material to understand that your views are overly simplistic.
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#18 Posted : 12/11/2011 11:59:56 PM

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Citta wrote:
So, when beliefs have no evidence, when they are unsubstantiated, they should nevertheless be free of critical inquiry? If we were to follow your logic, this means that for example suicide bombers blowing themselves up in their belief in Allah and Paradise, should be immune to criticism towards their beliefs that are used to justify such horrible actions. We should just shrub it off; "to each their own", and remain silent. This is not a very good position to take, is it?

as long as one treats everyone as they wish to be treated, i have no problem with allowing them to believe what they wish; whether they believe that a former emperor of ethiopia is god incarnate, or in a flying spaghetti monster that is god over a flat earth.
it is not really my business.


Judaism:
Talmud, Shabbat 31a:
What is hateful to you, do not to your fellowman. That is the entire Law (Torah); all the rest is commentary.

Islam:
Sunnah, Forty Hadith of an-Nawawi 13:
No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
Since Allah is the one God of everything, then everyone in the world is a brother.

Mishkat-el-Masabih:
Do unto all men as you would they should unto you, and reject for others what you would reject for yourself.

The Farewell Sermon, by Muhammad (delivered before his death, A.D. 632):
Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you.

Buddhism:
Udana-Varga 5:18:
Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.

Hinduism:
Mahabharata 5:1517:
This is the sum of duty: do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.

Panchatantra III.104:
Never do to others what would pain thyself.

Mencius Vii.A.4:
One should not behave towards others in a way which is disagreeable to oneself.

Confucianism:
Analects 15:23:
Do not unto others what you would not have them do unto you.

Doctrine of the Mean 13.3:
Tse-kung asked, “Is there one word that can serve as a principle of conduct for life?” Confucius replied, “It is the word 'shu' -- reciprocity. Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire.”

Taoism:
T'ai Shang Kan Ying P'ien:
Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain and your neighbor' loss as your own loss.

Zoroastrianism:
Dadistan-I-dinik 94:5:
That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself.

Shayast-na-Shayast 13:29:
Whatever is disagreeable to yourself do not do unto others.

Jainism:
Lord Mahavira, 24th Tirthankara:
In happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, we should regard all creatures as we regard our own self.

Sikhism:
Guru Arjan Devji 259:
Don't create enmity with anyone as God is within everyone.

Ancient Egyptian:
The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant, 109-110 (1970-1640 BC):
Do for one who may do for you, that you may cause him thus to do.

Native American:
The Great Law of Peace:
Respect for all life is the foundation.

The Shawnee:
Do not kill or injure your neighbor, for it is not him that you injure, you injure yourself. But do good to him, therefore add to his days of happiness as you add to your own. Do not wrong or hate your neighbor, for it is not him that you wrong, you wrong yourself. But love him, for Moneto loves him also as he loves you.

Socrates:
Do not do to others that which would anger you if others did it to you.

Plato:
May I do to others as I would that they should do unto me.

Roman Pagan Religion:
The law imprinted on the hearts of all men is to love the members of society as themselves.

Wicca (Neopagan Witchcraft):
Wiccan Rede:
An’ it harm none, do what you will.

Secular Humanism (atheists):
British Humanist Society:
Don’t do things you wouldn’t want to have done to you.

President Obama:
Notre Dame Commencement Speech, May 17, 2009:
For if there is one law that we can be most certain of, it is the law that binds people of all faiths and no faith together. It is no coincidence that it exists in Christianity and Judaism; in Islam and Hinduism; in Buddhism and humanism. It is, of course, the Golden Rule - the call to treat one another as we wish to be treated. The call to love. To serve. To do what we can to make a difference in the lives of those with whom we share the same brief moment on this Earth.



that being said:
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#19 Posted : 12/12/2011 12:07:44 AM
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Well said. "If there was an emoticon to applaud i would use it right here."
 
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#20 Posted : 12/12/2011 12:14:19 AM
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I have experienced something like this myself. In a smaller way than you have i assume. I don't think it is a coincidence that this is a common theme in the use of psychedelics. To disregard it as just "tripping" is to entirely miss the point i think. I haven't had a total awakening tho, i was just isolated in my bedroom and was told that fear is holding me back from total awakening. This thread looked very promising I hope we can get it back on track now. Please, someone.

Oh, and regarding my experience. It's not exactly what you requested but i want to go into more detail. It's very hard to put into words so bear with me. I found myself in my room completely alone and i "realized" that nothing actually excists except for myself. I got a peak into the wheels of life that i experienced on salvia and was quite devestated by this realization. Then i noticed I wasn't alone. There was a female singular entity right there and she told me to get over myself. Here I was self-loathing and completely ignored the beautiful female goddess that has been with me for eternity. Then I heared my sister and saw scenes of my family marching through the door. Familiair voices and loving words where heared and in my current state of mind I expected to have a family sit-down right then and there. It brought me back down and proceeded into different trip themes for the next two hours.

This experience is burned unto my memory. I forget it when i'm sober but i remember it every time i take mushrooms. The lesson i learned is LOVE.

I firmly believe that these experiences only have real power when they are, ofcourse, experienced in their moment. But I can't help but ask what ur experiences are tobecomeone00 ? You have intrigued me greatly..
 
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