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How to we emancipate people from the foolishness of the drug war? Options
 
universalshaman
#1 Posted : 12/6/2011 3:50:04 PM

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It seems to me, you've got three areas of mind in this "drug issue" our society has..

1) People who use and are pro-psychedelic/meditation/spiritual practice, etc.

2) People who use and don't think a second thought as to the point of the substances.

C) People who are so embedded in culture conditioning, that they smell pot and think that they'll be addicted if they do not induce vomiting right then and there..

..So how to we put forward a legitimate position regarding the psychedelic experience and society?

We're aware that there is a living mind, and galactic hyperspacial modalities which contain entities and beings from far away places, but yet the society is so infantalized, that if it doesn't have anything to do with the new 2012 Kia Expensive, 2012 Ford Too Much Money, some other brand name of clothing, or coming through the tv, then they don't want to associate theirselves with it.

There's a great misunderstanding as to "what's going on" and "what's going on."
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#2 Posted : 12/6/2011 6:02:44 PM
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One day, you and all of the people in those 3 categories you provided are going to physically die. If you truly believe that there is a galactic hyperspatial mind, then it seems to me that it shouldn't matter who else believes it. In death, you will all be reunited with the source of all consciousness. Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting your beliefs. I'm just trying to say that there may be nothing you can do in this life. If you believe that you are becoming a higher order of conscious, then fighting against normal people is like trying to convert a tree. We're all just machines going about our pre-programmed business. You're trying to deprogram yourself, and it seems like you're making progress, but clashing with the other machines is like getting upset at any other inanimate object. I think that everybody is guilty of being enraged by office supplies at some point or another, but eventually you learn to choose your battles wisely. In the end, everybody is responsible for pursuing their own enlightenment. It's not something that can be handed to anybody. We all have to undertake a personal pilgrimage for it. In that sense, it seems like the only thing you can do is save yourself.

Otherwise, I think the best you can really do is A) be open with others about your beliefs and your support of psychedelic drug use, B) be caring, respectful, and intelligent in order to project a positive image of people who support psychedelic drugs, and C) reach out to others who are undertaking the same psychedelic pilgrimage (which you're already doing).
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#3 Posted : 12/6/2011 10:33:36 PM

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everything and everyone is already perfect in every way.
why are you trying to fix perfection? simply admire..
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#4 Posted : 11/9/2013 4:07:14 PM

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universalshaman wrote:
How to we emancipate people from the foolishness of the drug war?



Ethan Nadelmann's speech about drug war/drug peace (Bioneers 2012)

I saw this on FreeSpeech tv
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#5 Posted : 11/9/2013 5:25:53 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
“When you realize how perfect everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky” -Gautama Siddharta

everything and everyone is already perfect in every way.
why are you trying to fix perfection? simply admire..

^^^^ This.
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#6 Posted : 11/10/2013 12:22:58 PM

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I'm reminded of a quote I have on the wall next to my desk:

"If you have come to help me, you are wasting your time. But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together." – Lill Watson, aboriginal activist

If your motivation is that your ego perceives a "problem" and wants to "fix it" or have it fixed... let it go.

Often, the most helpful thing you can do for others and the world is do your own self work. By the time a person has worked on themselves enough that they no longer need to fix the world, then they might actually start to be helpful ;-) But then the helping flows through them, rather than the ego attempting to make it come from them.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/10/2013 1:44:08 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
everything and everyone is already perfect in every way.


not really...

Things that are obviously unjust aren't perfect. (drug war = not perfect).

Malevolent people aren't perfect in every way. (Koch brothers = not perfect).

 
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#8 Posted : 11/10/2013 2:05:08 PM

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#9 Posted : 11/11/2013 3:46:32 AM

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Simple, find a way to make regulation a more appealing and profitable route for the police than outright prohibition. Well, simple in theory at least. Regulation would make work safer for officers, it would increase purity and safety for users, increase tax revenue, create jobs and eliminate a major income source for criminal gangs.

You think the government would figure it out like they did with alcohol but I guess in a sense they did. Its much easier for the government to control the population when they have a menacing invisible specter to wave over the people. Hitler did it with the 'impure races', the communists did it with capitalists and Orwell used it as a theme in many of his works.

I suppose that you could just get rid of the government as is and return to being a federation as intended rather than the corrupt and decaying constitutional democracy. Might end up on the terror watch list if you suggest that though, its happened for less!

I believe it was Franklin who said something along the lines of "those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither" and it still holds true but is only now becoming apparent.
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#10 Posted : 11/11/2013 5:58:13 AM

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Cosmic Spore wrote:
Parshvik Chintan wrote:
everything and everyone is already perfect in every way.


not really...

Things that are obviously unjust aren't perfect. (drug war = not perfect).

Malevolent people aren't perfect in every way. (Koch brothers = not perfect).


I agree.


While i can find eastern philosophy beautiful as the next person, there's just something not quite fair about a body of government regulating what degree of consciousness exploration an individual, free adult is able to explore.


As JesusBuiltMyHotRod said, the advantages of legalizing drugs vastly outweigh the cons, if done properly, i.e. regulating set, setting, dosage - basically educating people instead of instilling fear and ignorance with misinformation and false propaganda. Not only that, but with certain drugs being legalized there would be a lot less cartel related deaths than there are now, obviously.



I remember being in high school and learning about prohibition. I remember that i used to hate, absolutely hate any history class. I asked my teacher why it is that we are required to learn things like american history, and he always replied "so that we don't make the same mistakes." Around the time we got to prohibition, i recall asking him the difference between the negative outcomes of prohibition and the war on drugs, to which he said that was an unnecessary question. basically sums up the ignorance of the majority of americans regarding the subject. but i can't really blame them for their ignorance, most people don't even think to look deeper with regards to the potential benefits and historical uses of drugs and simply trust that the information they have learned through out their youth was true.



Am i saying everyone needs to go out and take drugs? by all means, no. but adults should have the freedom to do so if educated properly. i see no reason why anyone's life should be wasted, locked up in a cell with no freedom because they made the conscious choice of enjoying mother nature's natural medicine. i see no reason why anyone should believe this is okay, because it is based on lies and ignorance. how do we emancipate people from this ignorance? i can't imagine letting go will help with anything. but i also don't have an answer. i talk to most of my co-workers and friends all the time about it and they seem to sympathize even though some (but most do) don't partake in anything drug related. maybe write a level-headed book, or make a good film about the subject. flyers. educating the masses would do wonders and would be a good step towards change.
 
 
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