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dreamer042
#1 Posted : 11/30/2011 5:50:13 AM

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Either Monday or Tuesday the Senate will vote on a bill that allows the US military to imprison civilians with no formal charges and hold them with no trial.

The ACLU reports even US citizens wouldn't be immune as the legislation aims to declare national territory part of the "battlefield" in the War on Terror.

http://www.businessinsid...t-home-or-abroad-2011-11


This is bad news, please help try and put a stop to this.

https://secure.aclu.org/...865&s_subsrc=fixNDAA
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#2 Posted : 11/30/2011 5:53:22 AM

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dreamer042 wrote:
This is bad news, please help try and put a stop to this.

https://secure.aclu.org/...865&s_subsrc=fixNDAA

inb4 civilians = OWS protesters
seriously, this is some orwellian shit.
why would anyone seriously consider this?
how could it lead to anything but corruption and abuse?
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#3 Posted : 11/30/2011 6:59:11 AM

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And welcome police state United States. Where freedom gets squandered over fear of a few desert people trying to blow themselves up.
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#4 Posted : 11/30/2011 8:44:28 AM

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dreamer042 wrote:
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Either Monday or Tuesday the Senate will vote on a bill that allows the US military to imprison civilians with no formal charges and hold them with no trial.

The ACLU reports even US citizens wouldn't be immune as the legislation aims to declare national territory part of the "battlefield" in the War on Terror.

http://www.businessinsid...t-home-or-abroad-2011-11


This is bad news, please help try and put a stop to this.

https://secure.aclu.org/...865&s_subsrc=fixNDAA


Hooray!!! One step closer to making it easier to declare Martial Law and try to keep it going as long as possible.. Say they do pass this new bill, they start calling in military to disperse "occupy" protesters. Arresting anyone not willing to comply. This leads to more protest and starts a higher motive for protesting effectively throwing this whole Occupy protest into full blown Revolution. Boom, they declare martial law and things start getting down right ugly.

You guys better hope to Hell this thing doesn't pass or it will pretty much give your government full fledged power over you..
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#5 Posted : 11/30/2011 9:51:17 AM

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this is doomed if it passes. we can't just give them that power i hope somebody stops this from happening. this aint freedom
 
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#6 Posted : 11/30/2011 10:49:37 AM

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Wow. That is f'ed up. Shocked My thoughts are with you, lets hope the Senate have a shred of sense and decency.
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#7 Posted : 11/30/2011 5:26:54 PM

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My thoughts are with you, lets hope the Senate have a shred of sense and decency.


Sadly, I fear that ship has already sailed. Sad
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#8 Posted : 11/30/2011 8:53:36 PM

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I'm ready for a revolution.
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#9 Posted : 11/30/2011 10:06:59 PM

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I'm ready for a revolution.

I'm ready for an evolution Smile
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#10 Posted : 11/30/2011 11:03:21 PM

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Don't let it get you down guys. This is the natural progression of our evolution. Think about it... Think about how society as a whole is right now. Our collective ego is completely out of whack. We are completely selfish and everyone is scared of each other. Just look at the near massacres the past Black Friday. The only way people are going to come together is when they all have a common enemy. Our Government is about to be that enemy. Once the people can learn to Unite, we will see what the collective consciousness is really capable of!

We've got a long, hard road ahead of us but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. That light is pure consciousness itself! I really, truly believe that there is a cosmic push behind all of this. We will learn from this and with technology, our history can never be erased again so we can keep these lessons and not have to repeat this again.

Please just keep in mind that we must stick together at all costs. It is more important now than any other time in history. Like the saying goes, United We Stand, Divided We Fall. We'll be okay as long as we can learn to work together and love each other.

I love you guys! Solidarity!!!
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#11 Posted : 12/1/2011 1:50:55 AM

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Don't let it get you down guys. This is the natural progression of our evolution. Think about it... Think about how society as a whole is right now. Our collective ego is completely out of whack. We are completely selfish and everyone is scared of each other. Just look at the near massacres the past Black Friday. The only way people are going to come together is when they all have a common enemy. Our Government is about to be that enemy. Once the people can learn to Unite, we will see what the collective consciousness is really capable of!

We've got a long, hard road ahead of us but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. That light is pure consciousness itself! I really, truly believe that there is a cosmic push behind all of this. We will learn from this and with technology, our history can never be erased again so we can keep these lessons and not have to repeat this again.

Please just keep in mind that we must stick together at all costs. It is more important now than any other time in history. Like the saying goes, United We Stand, Divided We Fall. We'll be okay as long as we can learn to work together and love each other.

I love you guys! Solidarity!!!


True that. At least theres one man on the inside fighting the good fight-

http://www.youtube.com/w...;feature=player_embedded
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#12 Posted : 12/1/2011 2:34:24 AM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
Dream2Awaken wrote:
I'm ready for a revolution.

I'm ready for an evolution Smile

evolution doesn't occur overnight, it occurs over time (and generations).


yea...this is really f'ed up; and to think a lot of people voted for one of these clowns
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#13 Posted : 12/1/2011 5:03:57 AM

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This is no surprise, or at least shouldn't be to us... The greatest minds of our era (and especially our community), from McKenna, Leary, Hawking, even the ever level-headed Alan Watts have been telling us that these events are to be expected, and will signify a shift in consciousness if WE (and be "we", I mean the people in this conversation, and people with like minds) have the balls enough to hold the common man up by the grace of god within us.

I'm not trying to be grandiose here... but we are those who know the way, who hold the secret, and who can preserve the truth. This is not because we're better, chosen for the role or gifted with power... but because we are those who have the courage to go face-first into the unknown and have come back with even more strength than we started with.

We are those who have the wisdom to truly know reality from ideology. We know that there is no reality, but realities.
We are those who know that "Right" is not determined by a rulebook, but by what we know and feel is the greater path.
We are those who are not shaken by fear when we face with chaos, and uncertainty of the unknown future.
...We are those who know that all is harmony. We know that there is no yin without yang: No order without chaos, no joy without pain, that there is no paradise to gain if there is no hell to fall to.
We know that it is not chance, law or fate that determines whether good or evil prevails... for we know that evil cannot be vanquished just as the light of the good cannot be kept at bay. We know that the only way to meaningfully shape the world is through Love and Compassion for all, period.

We are the light, like the sages, shamans, men of God and men of Science who have lit the way for us, who stand unshaken by the ferocious wind of inevitable change. We've been there, and we have returned whole.
When those around us fall, trembling and clutching at the last vestiges of their shattered lives... We are the ones who will be left standing, who will be left whole.
We are blessed by the most powerful god of all... the god within ourselves. We hold the power and heritage of the human race in our hands, minds and hearts... and we know it. We have what can really never be taken away... and this makes us mighty.

The question at hand is not "Will there be freedom or tyranny?" or "Are you ready for the revolution?". These questions and their answers will be meaningless when the time does come. The question is:

"When humanity needs you most, will you have the courage and compassion to reach out an open hand, to bare your heart before attack and torture? Will you stand up not for you and yours, your country or your freedom... But for Humanity itself?"

We live every moment on the bleeding edge of now, of what is possible. Our every action shapes the future and lends meaning to the past... Go with Grace and go with God. Let's make this place greater than any of us can imagine.
 
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#14 Posted : 12/1/2011 5:17:42 AM

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not surprised at all, figured it was a possibility since I was a mid-teenager.
no aware person would be surprised, noting historical events are quasi-cyclical in nature.
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