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I feel this was the best place to post.....
I have read my butt off and decided for my 1st time i am going to do a STB extraction with 200grams of root bark...
hoping to yield 1% of that 200 and being im very simple and content that would last me quite some time...if stored properly....
After doing my own extraction this will be my 1st experience with the spice because i do not trust anyone else to know what im getting.
I just wanted to say thanks for everyone and their help on here im glad a place like this exists... thanks
oh and the questions, is a 1% yield realistic for a 1st time extract? Im very anal and tedious so im hoping the answer is yes
2nd Whats the policy on vendors? if this is inappropriate question i apologize and will edit immediately
Also not so sure i will have the cash to by a GVG to try the spice with so iyo what would be the optimal way to breakthough for a 1st timer? I was leaning towards making a machine or something?
thanks
Godzilla
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lots of variables that go into yeild %, but if you make no serious mistakes, and purchase quality rb, then 1% is totally realistic imo. My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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Posts: 28 Joined: 10-Oct-2011 Last visit: 18-Jan-2014 Location: Scandinavia
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Welcome to the Nexus  From my personal experience, about 1% sounds very realistic. However, don't worry about yield - it's hard to get the tek wrong if you are careful. I suggest starting as low as 50g for your first extract. That way you still have a lot if you mess things up. There is a suppliers forum farther down the page. Posting and talking about suppliers is OK as long as they only sell legal things / plants and herbs. The GVG is not neccesary in my experience. I use a glass bong with steel wool in - works like a charm! The Machine is extremely good also. I suggest that you spend some time reading the forums, wiki, etc. There's loads and loads of interesting information on here already 
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The first time I extracted spice, I wasn't even sure if I had the right materials or if I were doing it right (seemed like I was doing it wrong), but I wound up with a bunch of crystals anyway. May I suggest that instead of STB, you try Q21Q21's dry lime tek. The materials are easy to get, safe to use and the extraction process itself is a real breeze with quick results and large yields. Also, you'll really want to do the acidification step. It only takes 20 min extra and goes a long way. All you'll need is some white vinegar --- pretty easy to get. Please note that if you intend on getting 1% out of 200g (which would be 2g DMT), this implies that you'll be doing multiple pulls on the same set of bark. I say this to remind you not to get discouraged if after your first pull you only have like .6g instead of 2g or something like that. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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Quote:I suggest starting as low as 50g for your first extract. That way you still have a lot if you mess things up. This is good advice. Do a small test run and so you have an understanding of the process and can start to develop your technique.
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Posts: 23 Joined: 29-Aug-2011 Last visit: 24-Jan-2012
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ok thanks, I have root bark and lye 200grams of both....
Looks like im going to be reading alot more for a while....
Looking to find a tek with lots of pics, Once i figure it out im going to spend alot of time getting as much out of it as i can, I will start with 50 gram extraction....
Also debating which homemade device will be the simplest to breakthough with
all and any suggestions are welcome
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Posts: 3207 Joined: 19-Jul-2011 Last visit: 02-Jan-2023
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Godzillas wrote:ok thanks, I have root bark and lye 200grams of both....
Looks like im going to be reading alot more for a while....
Looking to find a tek with lots of pics, Once i figure it out im going to spend alot of time getting as much out of it as i can, I will start with 50 gram extraction....
Also debating which homemade device will be the simplest to breakthough with
all and any suggestions are welcome any vaporizer should be fine. you can make a ghetto light-bulb vape for cheap as hell. just make sure you get a clear light bulb, the white powder is terrible for you, even if you wash it out with salt and water. im sure there are many good ideas on the wiki. My wind instrument is the bong CHANGA IN THE BONGA! 樹
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Posts: 5267 Joined: 01-Jul-2010 Last visit: 13-Dec-2018
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I would work on learning what goes into preparing a bowl/bong for the sandwich method before using a light bulb. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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so doing my second pull now, first pull not sure on the yeild but i was worried because the heptane was clear but guess what.... i got clear spice. guessing id say about .4 not sure though....
also what is emulsions exactly? jsut droplets or soup in the solvent layer? i didnt get any of that....
very excited and relieved to at least have something!! so im debating on buying a GvG sherlock style and a jet lighter before trying this out... or should i just jimmy rig a device?
thanks again to everyone and this site for passing down information and knowledge to those who seek it
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Posts: 59 Joined: 19-Sep-2011 Last visit: 15-Dec-2011 Location: Cornwall, UK
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All my extractions are based on Gir's thread and had amazing yields, apart from first batch of bark which was rubbish! Bought from a better supplier and first 2 pulls on 200g yielded 2.41g's! Here's the thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=11797Have you tried the 'Machine' as an alternative to the GVG? Very effective and cheap 
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Posts: 498 Joined: 21-Oct-2009 Last visit: 31-Mar-2023
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GVG is a worthy investment, the axe pack is great too. id also start with a 50g mini batch, but seems like you did alright. emulsions are those bubbles you can see after shaking the mixture around, sometimes a layer of naptha can have these emulsions inside of them and you have to let it settle (or perhaps add more naoh)
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Posts: 23 Joined: 29-Aug-2011 Last visit: 24-Jan-2012
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cool cool and whats the consensus on 1st time does. i was thinking .05
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iv heard of it but have some really noob questions on using it.... anyone familiar with the machine care to help a journeyer out?
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Posts: 498 Joined: 21-Oct-2009 Last visit: 31-Mar-2023
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never used 'the machine' but id suggest 15-20 mg for your first dose then keep upping 5-10mg until you are able to smoke with technique/breakthrough 
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Posts: 2354 Joined: 24-Jan-2010 Last visit: 21-Jun-2012 Location: Massachusetts
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Wonderful that your extraction is moving along! 50mg is a bit high, with something fairly effective like The Machine. Definitely 15-20, and work up. Also, The Key works really well, if you're not into building The Machine. Good luck! PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
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