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Geines
#1 Posted : 10/21/2011 12:51:45 PM
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1. Does the physical effects of dmt feel like there's come ominous tinkering going on inside of the brain, or like a dmt version of pins and needles around the brain, body, mind, or whatever you are when you're in hypespace?

2. About hyperspace, I'm not getting the wonderful multidimensional multicolor cosmic space trip others report. Twice I broke through and twice I've entered into a white space, but met different beings each time giving different messages. But they're nothing like Alex Grey's vivid imagery as I can barely make them out, and they both seemed white too. Is this normal?

3. It's quite possible questions 1 and 2 are caused by the product. I'm only receiving a yellow sticky powder from the STB extractions. Must I purify it for a more serene and beautiful experience?

4. When you inhale do you do one big rip and holed it in until the effects start or multiple rips holding each one for a set amount of time?

5. Lastly when you trip, and you're still conscious, do you do it with your eyes open or closed?

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Global
#2 Posted : 10/21/2011 3:29:37 PM

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Geines wrote:
1. Does the physical effects of dmt feel like there's come ominous tinkering going on inside of the brain, or like a dmt version of pins and needles around the brain, body, mind, or whatever you are when you're in hypespace?

2. About hyperspace, I'm not getting the wonderful multidimensional multicolor cosmic space trip others report. Twice I broke through and twice I've entered into a white space, but met different beings each time giving different messages. But they're nothing like Alex Grey's vivid imagery as I can barely make them out, and they both seemed white too. Is this normal?

3. It's quite possible questions 1 and 2 are caused by the product. I'm only receiving a yellow sticky powder from the STB extractions. Must I purify it for a more serene and beautiful experience?

4. When you inhale do you do one big rip and holed it in until the effects start or multiple rips holding each one for a set amount of time?

5. Lastly when you trip, and you're still conscious, do you do it with your eyes open or closed?

Many thanks to those who answer.


1. I wouldn't describe it necessarily as pins and needles, but sometimes I do feel like I can perceive physical parts of my brain activating and vibrating a bit.

2. What are you using to smoke out of, and how do you have it set up (i.e. ash bed/herb bed/copper mesh/screens)? What kind of lighter are you using? How much are you loading up each time? To me, the white space is actually quite sacred, but I could imagine getting bored of it if I couldn't get to any of the more brilliantly colored spaces.

3. DMT is DMT. It's probably not your product, although some claim yellow DMT to be a bit harsher on the lungs, so as a result you may find it easier to inhale a larger dose more quickly with white DMT.

4. Most people claim that the strongest experiences are achieved by inhaling the whole dose in one shot, but personally I like to take two rips. I hold each one in for like 15 seconds and exhale. You know you've held it in long enough when you go to exhale, and you can't see any vapor/smoke. Here's a little trick that I've found infinitely helpful. DMT vapor can be pretty harsh (even out of the GVG --- everyone's lungs are different), so what I like to do is to fill it up till you have a really thick white vapor going. Now at that point, stop inhaling and try to hold what you have in your lungs for 3-5 seconds. Your lungs may be going crazy, spazzing out, but after 3-5 seconds they should settle down. At this point, without exhaling inhale the rest of the vapor in the pipe. You shouldn't even feel it hit your lungs, and chase it with a bit of air to make sure you've got all the DMT in your lungs and not your mouth/throat, and hold that in for like 15 seconds. Let's recap: fill the pipe, hold down the DMT for 3-5 seconds, without exhaling, inhale the rest and hold it in till when you exhale you can't see any vapor. When I use this method, long before I'm even through holding in my first hit, I have grand OEVs starting to form.

5. I usually do it with my eyes closed. Especially if you're looking for colors, I would keep your eyes closed for the bulk of the experience, but you should feel free to experiment and see what works for you. You're certainly not gonna break through if your eyes are open though. As a side note I remain conscious throughout the entire experience, and very rarely have "I" been removed from the equation, even in the most profound recesses of hyperspace that I've accessed.

Hope that helps! Very happy
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Geines
#3 Posted : 10/21/2011 4:24:16 PM
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Thanks for replying Global.

When you feel your brain "activating" do you feel any sort of pain in the process? I feel jolts, like sharp electric pins and needles through my being, very uncomfortable.

A few hours ago when I did it I used a small pipe. Around 50mg Dmt was placed between a bed of blue lotus, and I used a normal lighter. Why do you think the white space is sacred? First time was like an ascension into heaven, probably because I was lying down looking up. On pharmahuasca I was heading there and thought if I'd enter that place I'd be lost forever. The second time with freebase I felt a deja'vu, and basically was told the same thing I was told on pharmahuasca but this time I was powerless to even freak out. Sacred or not, it's not a place I wish to return to.

"Most people claim that the strongest experiences are achieved by inhaling the whole dose in one shot" That's what I did, it's how I usually do it. I exhale when my heart and breathing slows, I'm almost forced to. I still see the smoke for a few seconds then I'm gone.
"I have grand OEVs starting to form." The only time I have grand OEVs is on the comedown from hyperspace, and it doesn't last very long. I've gotten OEVs with DMT on lower doses but they're not grand.

The first time I did it I broke through and was unconscious for a little amount of time. When I did it a few hours ago I filmed myself. I made sure not to close my eyes, of course when you break through you're unaware of what's happening. In the video I was blinking all the way through. I'm not sure if closing my eyes would've changed what I saw considering I'm no longer using my eyes. You're right though, on the come down I can see nice CEVs, not quite as good as other psychedelics, but the OEVs more than make up for it.

Thanks again. Smile
 
 
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