I love to windsurf and exert myself on the water, it lifts my spirit almost without fail...

So... I read in the LSD Psychotherapy book by Stanislav Grof that swimming in water can be a very special experience when on mescaline or LSD, and then I read the thread here on programming on LSD a moment ago... which gave me the idea of windsurfing on mescaline.

I've only done a low dose of mesc so far which gave me XTC like effects, and with a dose like that I can imagine surfing will go fine. With the low dose of mesc my concentration was enhanced and I felt very awake and euphoric.

So my question is, does anyone have experience with something like that? I mean, doing something on mesc which requires high concentration, quick reaction times, and heavy physical activity?

It's not that I don't enjoy the surfing experience enough by itself I'm just curious how it would be on mesc, I imagine it would be totally awesome.

I would totally skip it and surf the waves on consciousness instead with a higher dose of mescaline. Surfing while on mescaline seems just like high seeking from substance that can actually bring out much more for your consciousness.
But seriously I wouldn't even consider doing something like that under the influence of any psychedelic.
For safety reasons and the fact that I don't treat psychedelics as something I want to use for ENHANCING another experience, such as a hobby like windsurfing.

how about snowboarding on mushrooms >:]

Go for it. You will have the time of your life.

I agree with house.
Just be sure to be really smart about dosages. Personally when I do things like that I prefer research chemicals or something that I can measure the dose for. Also I would recommend going with a sober friend or someone who can help deal with any difficult situation that may arrive, and provide transportation for you

I would never advise anybody use rc's out on the water. I am very experienced with mescaline, and can see this activity being very meditative and fun. Even a high dose you'll be fine. Roll a couple doobies and stick them in your wetsuit in a bag and fire them up a few hours in, too!

sure sounds great..I skimboard alot and surf as much as I can and I love skimboarding and surfing on a light dose of a psychedelic. I have surfed on a light mushroom dose and stoned many times..and I have skimboarded on mescaline and mushrooms and durring the afterglow of DMT, on bufotenine and probly others I cant remember..I remember one day getting slotted on a nice wave one time durring a mescaline peak and it was soo epic..

Be careful though. Noone should do this if they are unsure in terms of dosing, a weak swimmer or unsure of the area. Rip tides are not something to play around with and especially not while tripping. Know your dose and keep it low and know the beach and all the currents like the back of your hand. Ive had my share of freakouts being caught in rip tides at unfamiliar surf spots and I cant imagine what that could be like while tripping. The only time I ever went farther than smoking a joint before paddling out was on small days at a beach I was very familiar with.

You have obviousily never been on a surfboard. Surfing is like the highest form of meditation I can possible engage in..It is no coincidence that the surf culter of the 60's was so intwined with psychedelic mysticism..

be careful... obviously. But, I go SUP (stand up paddleboarding) often enhanced. have fun

Skydiving on DMT... Vape some spice before you jump!

(kidding)

Seriously though, if you keep the dose low I think it would be a very rewarding experience, EverGreen.

I used to use psychedelics like this and I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I was curious as to why you feel this way? Thanks tele

Consciousness expansion as such is great, but I see nothing wrong in experimenting with how they alter other activities, and might be, dare I say: fun? It's also not just about using the psychedelic to enhance the activity, but also using the activity to enhance the psychedelic experience. If you can get your adrenaline and a bunch of other hormones that wouldn't normally be in your system pumping out in the sun on the water, I'd imagine that you might find a place in your mind that you didn't know was there before. I agree that you potentially can get more out of consciousness expansion in some solitary location, but also part of the reason most people who get bored with psychedelics get bored is because they do the same thing with them every time. One can still be respectful of psychedelics, even in activities that you would define as "high seeking". Everybody's different, so who are we to judge?

I simply don't think it's necessary to do anything while under the influence of the psychedelic, especially at higher doses. When I concentrate fully on the experience, and not for example other activity such as rollerblading , I feel like I can get more out of the experience. It not being just "high while rollerblading(for example)". I'm sure it's fun but I am simply that kind of person who treats psychedelics as experience in itself, not something that's used to enhance other activities. Even when it could be fun.
These are just my opinions, to each their own.
But be safe

Psychedelic tripping in nature ftw

"I'm sure it's fun but I am simply that kind of person who treats psychedelics as experience in itself, not something that's used to enhance other activities. "

Sure there is TONS to explore with high doses in silent darkness..but that doesn't mean there isn't tons you can get from taking psychedelics while engaging in activities as well..and its not so much about 'enhancing' the activity but expanding the ways in which we experience being in the world. Some of the times i've felt most deeply connected to my true self and the cosmos was while on a psychedelic in nature. and wind surfing, or hiking, swimming, ect are just other novel ways we humans can experience being in nature

I mean by what you said it seems that you'd be against taking psychedelics at a festival/concert, or in a beautiful natural setting like hiking through a forest, or while making music, listening to music, having sex, dancing, making art, conversing with other humans, doing yoga, or any other creative activity which people love..where would the world be if people only took psychedelics in silent darkness? To me they are allies, catalysts that dissolve boundaries opening up new ways of experiencing not only ourselves but the world to. to each their own though

I didn't mean that. Especially the darkness and silence is just what you thought.

I meant taking psychedelics for the psychedelic experience, where ever/what ever that is. Personally I think nature is the best place.

Maybe I didn't elaborate enough what I meant. I was talking about taking psychedelics (especially at low doses) to increase the thrill one gets from certain activity, enhancing another experience. Which seems like simple high seeking to me... If the sole purpose of the trip is to enhance another activity.

Whatever one does, if it's not for the sole purpose of enhancing another experience such as sports, I think it can be counted as what I meant taking psychedelics for the sake of psychedelic experience, whatever one is doing under the influence. As if one is 4 hours "drugged", many things will come to pass... I just don't respect the idea of taking psychedelics for the sole purpose of enhancing another activity.

I'm personally am not the silent darkness type of guy for the experience anyway.

So back to the OP's question, what kind of dose of mescaline do you guys think would be suitable for this activity? And would pure mescaline be advisable over full-spectrum cactus?

Definitely no! I'm a regular skydiver ( just came back from that a couple of hrs. ago) When you do this it's only 50% about "you" the other
50% is protecting your co-skydivers from any additional mishap that could befall them because of your "enhanced" or "impaired" condition.
Plain vanilla default state is the order of the day for all high risk sports. ( ok a Redbull or double expresso might make the grade)

Peace to you all

I was referring to the OP's idea of windsurfing on mescaline. I worded that wrong, sorry.

"Whatever one does, if it's not for the sole purpose of enhancing another experience such as sports, I think it can be counted as what I meant taking psychedelics for the sake of psychedelic experience, whatever one is doing under the influence. As if one is 4 hours "drugged", many things will come to pass... I just don't respect the idea of taking psychedelics for the sole purpose of enhancing another activity."


...surfing is not a sport or a hobby. Surfing is a way of life that engages a dialogue with nature at it's core. This is not hacky sac. Surfing is a spiritual mediation that engages the pulse of the animate ocean herself.. I am sure windsurfing is the same. Taking pyschedelics while surfing is taking psychedelics in nature while engaging with the flow of nature. Anyone who has never surfed could not possibly understand this.

I think as long as you aren't on a dose of a substance which compromises your ability to perform effectively...

DO IT!

There's not many activities in this world that can't benefit from a pinch of psychedelic.

On my last mescaline journey I went for a good long run and the dose was high enough to cause very noticable visual alteration. It was raining and the wind was immense, levels of concerntration were higher and I paid much more attention to my breathing than I normally would. On top of this I had that special energy.

With mescaline I think there are levels of energy that just have to be spent. I can have good experiences lying down on this stuff, but when that energy is spent, the whole experience just seems to flow more efficently.

It's awesome.

If you're a confident windsurfer, I say hell to the yes to this