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hypoluxa79
#1 Posted : 10/10/2011 4:06:01 AM

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Hey everyone just a question to the more experienced users...How do you know when you've met/encountered your guardian...Do you just know? Does her/him/it tell you? Can anyone share any info on their personal Guardians? I have yet to take my first trip and it seems like this is an important part...any insight would be appreciated...Thank you

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#2 Posted : 10/10/2011 10:34:02 AM
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I'm yet to meet guardians... But I guess if you see someone guiding you in your journey, you might consider him one.
 
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#3 Posted : 10/10/2011 11:17:41 AM

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I don't think people have one single guardian. At least, this is not my experience.

There seem to be a number of beings that have a special interest in you personally, and can be found to hold your hand, show you around, impart some wisdom... protect you if need be.

The variety of beings that have done this in SWIM's journey's (entheogenic and completely sober) are legion. It is possible that we have one or more "guardian angels" but of the recurring personalities SWIM encounters, most of them seem to have better things to do than follow him around or appear, like his personal genie, on cue.

A better thing to consider, perhaps, is that seeking out and hanging around the highest and lightest beings you can find, will naturally give you whatever guidance and protection you seek. Lower vibrational and negative entities flee from such light beings and will not even think about bothering you in their presence.

Whatever you do... don't feed the negative entities you do encounter. Control your fear, sadness, anger and other base emotions and you will do just fine.

Peace & Blessings.
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hypoluxa79
#4 Posted : 10/10/2011 1:57:34 PM

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Hyperspace Fool wrote:
I don't think people have one single guardian. At least, this is not my experience.

There seem to be a number of beings that have a special interest in you personally, and can be found to hold your hand, show you around, impart some wisdom... protect you if need be.

The variety of beings that have done this in SWIM's journey's (entheogenic and completely sober) are legion. It is possible that we have one or more "guardian angels" but of the recurring personalities SWIM encounters, most of them seem to have better things to do than follow him around or appear, like his personal genie, on cue.

A better thing to consider, perhaps, is that seeking out and hanging around the highest and lightest beings you can find, will naturally give you whatever guidance and protection you seek. Lower vibrational and negative entities flee from such light beings and will not even think about bothering you in their presence.

Whatever you do... don't feed the negative entities you do encounter. Control your fear, sadness, anger and other base emotions and you will do just fine.

Peace & Blessings.

Thanks for the input, I have read quite a few stories involving "guardians", so I was curious..but I understand what you are saying...thanks again

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#5 Posted : 10/10/2011 3:08:15 PM

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There's this one entity that's shown up a number of times for me (in addition to several others that make repeated presentations). It's not humanoid in the slightest and is always made of the same abstract geometries. I can never understand what it says, but it's always making a lot of electric sounds or using telepathy with a language that is nothing like human language and both the sound and telepathy for this guy always happen in rhythms that are very distinct and unique to him. Sometimes if I hear that rhythm I know he's about to show up, or if I'm in pitch darkness, I can tell that he's there. He usually appears by himself as a living centerpiece of sorts, though I've seen him in the company of others too. On one occasion I was looking at an Egyptian goddess (with that classic Egyptian profile --- looked straight off the wall of a pyramid) an he was mingling with her. More importantly before that I experience, when I had my white light experience, as I was soaring through the fractal white light towards the godhead, I had the entity in question on either side of me (the first and only time I've seen more than one of him at once) and he had completely flared out and made himself complete gold and more angelic than usual as they continued to make their classic electronic musical rhythms soaring right along with me. From that point on, I realized that if I did have any guardians, it was probably that guy. I just wish I could understand him Laughing
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#6 Posted : 10/10/2011 3:40:30 PM

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I speak often about my guardian whom I call Teo (for no other reason then the time I first met this being was on mushrooms and the aboriginal term for the sacred fungi is Teonanactl so it seemed appropriate).

When I first met Teo, there was a feeling of familiarity, of connection, way beyond anything I have experienced with other humans while on Earth. It was like this being knew me, intimately knew me, better than anyone else and was very aware of my own unique situation and has guided about 90% of my mushroom breakthrough trips. It seems to me that every experience I've ever had on any psychedelic has been carefully orchestrated by this entity for my own education and I'll elaborate a bit on what I mean.

I won't put my entire psychedelic story here, but to summarize it briefly, I've had a hard time in life with religion and the oppressive, depressive influence it's had over me. I was addicted to the misery religion brought to my life and I can only call it an addiction now that I look back on it with perfect hindsight vision.

Well, the first time this being made itself known to me was through my mental addiction to religion. My first 'close encounter' started with a 'voice in the head', or the logos of the mushroom that Terence McKenna used to talk about. As I was peaking (not aware I was about to breakthrough into a realm I had yet to experience), this voice boomed at me with an authority that posed a challenging question to me: where did I hear about god from?

I didn't have a definitive answer and not having the answer prompted this voice to ask me why I hadn't thought about god at an early age. I again couldn't reply to this challenging series of personal questions, and this voice said to me, bluntly:

Voice: That's right, because back then you KNEW... but now you've forgotten.

It was after being told I had forgotten the answer that I launched into hyperspace for the first time and had the ride of my life. My entire childhood was explained to me, why I was 'more fun' (Teo's 'words', not mine) when I was younger and what had went wrong with me, which is a very personal story that I also won't go into here.

Having this incredible insight into parts of me I wasn't aware existed, proved to me that this being I was conversing with knew me better than I knew myself (which was communicated to me with a very blunt 'of course!'Pleased. Teo also has a certain... energy signature? Is that a good term? I dunno if it is, but I KNOW when he is nearby (sometimes even while sober). It's a different feeling from other entities I've encountered in hyperspace. Indeed, it seems to me that Teo is a part of myself, a branch of my conciousness that evolved in a different way and even though we are 'seperate' with regards to how we communicate, a deeper part of my knowledge knows that underneath this disguise Teo and I are actually one being so in the truest sense, I am a guardian and guide to myself.

I've been on many, many adventures in hyperspace with Teo but his main function seems to be teaching. There is a series of... lessons I've been taught about my perspectives on things here in 3D reality and I've found these to be 100% spot on accurate descriptions of my day-to-day mentality about things. Teo has also taken me as far out into hyperspace as I've ever gotten, and brought me before 4 other beings that looked identical to him. I've sort of dubbed these beings 'the council of Tek', as they seemed intimately aware of my situation (just like Teo) and were anxious for me to 'stop playing games and move on' with them.

I've 'seen' Teo a couple of times only, mostly he is just a felt presence, but the few times he has manifested in my vision he appears as a neon green ghost-like apparition (but not at all scary, actually quite funny looking). If you're familiar with how pavement looks when it's really hot, how it gets that heat aura above it like when your driving in the desert, that's the type of ephermal substance Teo is made out of, except with a very bright green to it. He also has a triangular 'head' with no descernible face.

So in answer to the original OP, I've found that there is a deep sense of companionship and knowing associated when you've met 'your' (and there could be many) guide(s). Your guide or guardian will speak to you and appear to you in ways that you never thought possible and when you meet 'them' you just sort of know who 'they' are and what 'they' represent. At least in my experiences anyways.
All posts are from the fictional perspective of The Legendary Tek: the formless, hyperspace exploring apprentice to the mushroom god Teo. Tek, the lord of Eureeka's Castle, is the chosen one who has surfed the rainbow wave and who resides underneath the matter dome. All posts are fictitious in nature and are meant for entertainment purposes only.
 
hypoluxa79
#7 Posted : 10/12/2011 2:42:13 AM

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Global wrote:
There's this one entity that's shown up a number of times for me (in addition to several others that make repeated presentations). It's not humanoid in the slightest and is always made of the same abstract geometries. I can never understand what it says, but it's always making a lot of electric sounds or using telepathy with a language that is nothing like human language and both the sound and telepathy for this guy always happen in rhythms that are very distinct and unique to him. Sometimes if I hear that rhythm I know he's about to show up, or if I'm in pitch darkness, I can tell that he's there. He usually appears by himself as a living centerpiece of sorts, though I've seen him in the company of others too. On one occasion I was looking at an Egyptian goddess (with that classic Egyptian profile --- looked straight off the wall of a pyramid) an he was mingling with her. More importantly before that I experience, when I had my white light experience, as I was soaring through the fractal white light towards the godhead, I had the entity in question on either side of me (the first and only time I've seen more than one of him at once) and he had completely flared out and made himself complete gold and more angelic than usual as they continued to make their classic electronic musical rhythms soaring right along with me. From that point on, I realized that if I did have any guardians, it was probably that guy. I just wish I could understand him Laughing

wow...how much do you usually take and can you give me any insight on your first trip?

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hypoluxa79
#8 Posted : 10/12/2011 2:55:45 AM

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Tek wrote:
I speak often about my guardian whom I call Teo (for no other reason then the time I first met this being was on mushrooms and the aboriginal term for the sacred fungi is Teonanactl so it seemed appropriate).

When I first met Teo, there was a feeling of familiarity, of connection, way beyond anything I have experienced with other humans while on Earth. It was like this being knew me, intimately knew me, better than anyone else and was very aware of my own unique situation and has guided about 90% of my mushroom breakthrough trips. It seems to me that every experience I've ever had on any psychedelic has been carefully orchestrated by this entity for my own education and I'll elaborate a bit on what I mean.

I won't put my entire psychedelic story here, but to summarize it briefly, I've had a hard time in life with religion and the oppressive, depressive influence it's had over me. I was addicted to the misery religion brought to my life and I can only call it an addiction now that I look back on it with perfect hindsight vision.

Well, the first time this being made itself known to me was through my mental addiction to religion. My first 'close encounter' started with a 'voice in the head', or the logos of the mushroom that Terence McKenna used to talk about. As I was peaking (not aware I was about to breakthrough into a realm I had yet to experience), this voice boomed at me with an authority that posed a challenging question to me: where did I hear about god from?

I didn't have a definitive answer and not having the answer prompted this voice to ask me why I hadn't thought about god at an early age. I again couldn't reply to this challenging series of personal questions, and this voice said to me, bluntly:

Voice: That's right, because back then you KNEW... but now you've forgotten.

It was after being told I had forgotten the answer that I launched into hyperspace for the first time and had the ride of my life. My entire childhood was explained to me, why I was 'more fun' (Teo's 'words', not mine) when I was younger and what had went wrong with me, which is a very personal story that I also won't go into here.

Having this incredible insight into parts of me I wasn't aware existed, proved to me that this being I was conversing with knew me better than I knew myself (which was communicated to me with a very blunt 'of course!'Pleased. Teo also has a certain... energy signature? Is that a good term? I dunno if it is, but I KNOW when he is nearby (sometimes even while sober). It's a different feeling from other entities I've encountered in hyperspace. Indeed, it seems to me that Teo is a part of myself, a branch of my conciousness that evolved in a different way and even though we are 'seperate' with regards to how we communicate, a deeper part of my knowledge knows that underneath this disguise Teo and I are actually one being so in the truest sense, I am a guardian and guide to myself.

I've been on many, many adventures in hyperspace with Teo but his main function seems to be teaching. There is a series of... lessons I've been taught about my perspectives on things here in 3D reality and I've found these to be 100% spot on accurate descriptions of my day-to-day mentality about things. Teo has also taken me as far out into hyperspace as I've ever gotten, and brought me before 4 other beings that looked identical to him. I've sort of dubbed these beings 'the council of Tek', as they seemed intimately aware of my situation (just like Teo) and were anxious for me to 'stop playing games and move on' with them.

I've 'seen' Teo a couple of times only, mostly he is just a felt presence, but the few times he has manifested in my vision he appears as a neon green ghost-like apparition (but not at all scary, actually quite funny looking). If you're familiar with how pavement looks when it's really hot, how it gets that heat aura above it like when your driving in the desert, that's the type of ephermal substance Teo is made out of, except with a very bright green to it. He also has a triangular 'head' with no descernible face.

So in answer to the original OP, I've found that there is a deep sense of companionship and knowing associated when you've met 'your' (and there could be many) guide(s). Your guide or guardian will speak to you and appear to you in ways that you never thought possible and when you meet 'them' you just sort of know who 'they' are and what 'they' represent. At least in my experiences anyways.

Nice insight...sounds like you've had an interesting journey...one thing I thought about while reading this was when I was very young,the youngest I can remember, I had a dream about "God", at least that what I related to the actual word "God", and I remember that what I saw/encountered was green...and when you said kind of funny looking I remember thinking that this "being" looked like a cartoon dinosaur of sorts..it sounds strange but at the same time it has stuck with me throughout life. Not that I think God is a green cartoon reptile...but it relates in some way...I'm not sure how...thanks for sharing

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#9 Posted : 10/12/2011 3:37:22 AM

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hypoluxa79 wrote:
Global wrote:
There's this one entity that's shown up a number of times for me (in addition to several others that make repeated presentations). It's not humanoid in the slightest and is always made of the same abstract geometries. I can never understand what it says, but it's always making a lot of electric sounds or using telepathy with a language that is nothing like human language and both the sound and telepathy for this guy always happen in rhythms that are very distinct and unique to him. Sometimes if I hear that rhythm I know he's about to show up, or if I'm in pitch darkness, I can tell that he's there. He usually appears by himself as a living centerpiece of sorts, though I've seen him in the company of others too. On one occasion I was looking at an Egyptian goddess (with that classic Egyptian profile --- looked straight off the wall of a pyramid) an he was mingling with her. More importantly before that I experience, when I had my white light experience, as I was soaring through the fractal white light towards the godhead, I had the entity in question on either side of me (the first and only time I've seen more than one of him at once) and he had completely flared out and made himself complete gold and more angelic than usual as they continued to make their classic electronic musical rhythms soaring right along with me. From that point on, I realized that if I did have any guardians, it was probably that guy. I just wish I could understand him Laughing

wow...how much do you usually take and can you give me any insight on your first trip?


I usually only take 10-15mg in the GVG. My vaporization technique has improved to the point where that's all I need to take me plenty far. I think there must be something else to it though, because out of the people I do share with, I always seem to be able to get much further than most of my friends claim or seem to be getting with the same dose, so who knows. I assume you're referring to my first DMT trip. In that case, I had acquired some orange powder through a friend of a friend of a friend...I was smoking it with both of those characters in question who had each never smoked it before either. We were loading generous amounts up into a bong. When it got to my turn, somebody knocked over the bowlhead on the bong and it spilled all over the floor! We got some playing cards and were able to recover most of it.

Anyway, I took a gigantic rip and it tasted like new shoes smell. Everything in the room became insanely vibrant. There were interlocking, uneven trapezoids on the wall across from me, and I was getting this incredible alien rush of euphoria which I remember thinking at the time felt three times better than my best ecstasy experience at its peak. I had completely fallen in love with the radiator that had amazingly intricate star patterns all over it. On opposing walls were two different tapestries of dragons; one red/one blue. They had each come alive and took on a very oriental quality about them. I remember speaking aloud to those in company as it was hitting me how awesome it felt, but my voice completely didn't sound like my voice. It was completely distorted, really high pitched and alien like. I think afterwards I ended up going up again, but I just blur those two initial experiences together in my mind. Afterwards when I came down, I remember feeling very relaxed and peaceful and yet excited all the same for another hour or so. I've never had an experience to match the flavor of those feelings or visuals ever since however. I would be very curious to be able to try from a similar batch some time, but for all I know, the ayahuasca I took in between then and extracting my own batch could have easily altered my experiences altogether forever.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
 
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