Swim has been planning an Iboga flood for some time now, & today is the day. He has done an Iboga flood before, though this time he will be using more bark than he has before(30g) Swim had chosen to do this partially because he has been on suboxone for almost a year & recently switched to shorter acting opiates in preparation for the flood. He posted a thread about it here last month for more info/details you can see it here: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=23827 Swim will try keep this new thread updated with his experiences with this flood etc for those interested. Wish swim luck, please keep him in your thoughts & send positive energy his way. He is prepared for a very intense journey with Iboga.

Good luck with everything!!

Positive thoughts going your way man :-)

peace

Yes Keep me informed how it went, you can pm me. swim has 2 grams of hcl but am waiting for a sitter to have the time to sit with swim.. I didnt know one could have a flood dose with bark, you must have to eat alot of bark hu? I hope everything goes well with you and your journey and it is safe

Ditto!

LOVE FROM ABOVE*

You are probably still slightly in the grasp of whatever beautiful experience took hold of you.
I know it was all that you needed
I love you.

Thank you so much for all your postive responses. Swim began the flood wednesday starting around 2pm. I'm still a bit out of it & its hard to properly convey everything that happened etc. Iboga brought up countless memories I had forgotten about mainly with family/friends. The day after the flood I cried a lot, it just came out of me uncontrollably. Due to being numb on opiates for a long time I hadn't been able to have/feel emotions like a normal person. Plus I had a loved pass away while I was on opiates, & I never got to properly grieve or feel the emotion I needed to, I have a good deal of guilt/shame for that. After coming out of the flood it was just a huge emotional release. I was forced to take a really hard & much needed look at myself. I haven't slept since tues night. I'm exhausted, & still have withdrawals, not unbearable but its still tough. Its a lot of effort just to even type this out honestly. I wish there was something to take to ease the wd's & get me through the week. I'm trying sodium ascorbate, as its supposed to help with opiate withdrawls. I have used neurontin in the past & it works great but am unsure if there are any interations with it post Iboga. I don't want to risk undoing any of Ibo's reset/rewiring. I will try to write more of the experience itself as I feel better.

Did you have a sitter? or did you just take it alone and hold on> did you get an ekg or any other dr related stuff your supposed to do before doing iboga? I ask cause I have 2 grams of hcl and I WANT\NEED a sitter, im a littel nervous to tell you the truth but I can hold my shit... maybe, I hear iboga kicks your ass

Did you have a sitter? or did you just take it alone and hold on> did you get an ekg or any other dr related stuff your supposed to do before doing iboga? I ask cause I have 2 grams of hcl and I WANT\NEED a sitter, im a littel nervous to tell you the truth but I can hold my shit... maybe, I hear iboga kicks your ass[/quote

No I didn't have a sitter, no ekg etc. I know I don't have cardiac issues & took my chances. By all means though, if you're nervous get a sitter, ekg, dr visit. Whatever makes you feel safe. The onset of an iboga flood can be unsettling & an especially uncomfortable experience. In my experience once you have purged begins the pleasant part of the experience, its smooth sailing from there. Iboga does kick your ass but in a great way. You have to be willing to put the time aside for recovery after the flood as well, its NOT the kind of thing you could just set a weekend aside for. You are left physically drained after the flood. And to answer your earlier question yes you can flood with bark.

Sorry I missed this til now. Glad to hear you got something out of the experience. Just PLEASE remember, a very low dose of alkaloids can remove some of that minor PAWS. Instead of looking to pharmaceuticals, try a tiny booster as needed, and look into other herbs.

There are some good discussions about this over on http://eboka.info . A benzo on rare occasions if you really need it won't hurt, but again, be very careful. As your new habits and neuro-pathways are repaired you don't want to start setting in less than healthy habits. Keep the slate as clean as possible until you are strong, and when you feel weak, please try low dose iboga, even bark, first!

Best wishes, and feel free to PM me or ask any questions you need to. Sometimes just talking out some of the mental and physical things can really help ease them.

Be well brother. Take care.

I've heard that salvia is supposed to help with opiate addictions. It apparently has the opposite effect on dopamine levels than most addictive things and blocks opioid receptors. I remember reading something like that a while back. You might wanna look into that and give that a shot.

I wasn't sure how soon one should take boosters after a flood, but if its ok already to do so I definitely will. I really dont want to take pharmaceuticals but the insomnia is awful, after not sleeping multiple nights in a row it takes a toll on you. Last night I took neurontin & I actually slept for the first time since tuesday(my last day of opiate use)I also started taking sodium ascorbate yesterday, which might've helped a bit as well. I hope the neurontin doesn't screw up any repairs the iboga is doing.

I will def try a booster. Today is my 4th day clean, I still have withdrawls though each day is better & the worst seems to be over. I have also really been making an effort to eat healthy since the flood, fruits & vegetables etc, & I definitely want to stick with healthy eating habits. I tried to register at eboka a while back when I started my initial thread here, but never was approved? It would be amazing if I actually had someone to talk to with extensive knowledge of Iboga. To be able to have visions explained somewhat or how to acually navigate the Iboga realm & get the most out of the healing post Iboga. Thanks GreatfulDad your knowledge has been helpful, your posts are most appreaciated.

I hadn't heard this before, I'll look into though I know I need to use caution with anything I use post Iboga. I'm unsure if there are any interaction issues with Salvia & Iboga.

I had no luck with salvia, myself. I can check to see if there are any accounts awaiting approval on Eboka for you, as well. And it isn't ever too soon to take a booster if you aren't feeling well. Sometimes just a small dose of bark will help tremendously with ibogamines already in the system.

Also, for the insomnia, as I stated, a benzo like valium or xanax, used very sparingly can help tremendously. After an iboga flood, though, don't expect more than 4 hours of straight sleep for a couple weeks at least. Small doses of iboga can help battle fatigue if it feels like you aren't getting needed rest, but often, after a flood, many feel that four hours is all they need.

I would steer clear of neurontin, if you can, as the iboga does do so much repair, throwing more pharmaceuticals than absolutely necessary in there can make it more difficult to do it's work. And as you start feeling up to it, exercise, along with your better eating habits, will get you back on track much faster. Hot baths, good music, eating healthier, and exercise will get you up to speed in no time.

You're almost there, just keep up the good work, tough out the minor stuff, and I'd bet in a month or two, you'll feel as if you never used. Don't get discouraged, and stay away from anywhere, anything, any person that triggers cravings. If you do start to feel them, take a little iboga, take up some healthy activity, or even pop into the Nexus chat and talk it over with me or anyone else in there. It will work wonders, and those feelings WILL pass. What you shouldn't do is feed those thoughts, by thinking about them too much.

You are retraining your brain to become healthier, learn healthier habits, and make new lasting pathways in your brain that will lead to all around better decision making. I applaud you for doing this. I know it's still a bit tough, but as time passes, each day will get easier and easier, until you realize weeks or months have passed and you don't need that awful poison in you anymore!

Good luck, and feel free to hit me up any time if you have any questions or just need some more inspiration!

I didn't see any accounts waiting for approval on Eboka, but if you are having trouble, you can PM me the email and/or name you signed up with and I can look into it further. Maybe try signing up again, if you are still having trouble, or just PM me with your details and I can be sure to get your membership taken care of.

I tried taking a small dose of bark today after reading your post, it honestly didn't seem to do anything. I don't know if its because I'm still in the 5 day wd period, maybe its harder to knock out the actual withdrawls with boosters. Hopefully its at least effective for the residual PAWS. I still have hot/cold chills, & that creepy skin crawling feeling as I type this. I did want to avoid taking the neurontin, thought I'm sure its the only reason I slept last night, not only that but it works a wonderful mood booster & takes away pretty much all the opiate withdrawals for me. Though I agree throwing more pharmeceuticals into the mix isn't the best idea. Hopefully the neurontin hasn't interfered or damaged Iboga's work.

I will take all your suggestions/info to heart & give it all I have to get through this. There are a good few people I have to simply cut out of my life its not even worth the risk. I've been trying to keep my mind occupied even though I feel crappy, music has actually helped a lot. Since I'm going through this alone at home it hasn't been easy. Having some company during this would've been a godsend. & btw listening to music in the Iboga realm is so amazing its hard to even explain.....all I can say is it flows into your soul. Its much different than listening to music on say LSD or Mushrooms(thats amazing in its own right)but with Iboga there's tempo changes it will slow down & speed up. Just beyond words. Anyone who has experienced it I'm sure would agree.

How big was your booster dose? It may be you just need a bit larger dose. I find 2-4 grams of top quality bark to be a nice dose. 200mgs of ibogaine HCl or even the equivalent in TA or bark should knock out those hot/cold chills and goosebumps. Hot baths help a lot, too. Having positive people to talk to or getting some fresh air can be a big help and so can some sunlight.

The booster was under a 1g. So I think you're probably right. I will try 2g today & see how that works, I'm trying to conserve my boosters since I don't have so much. I'll definitely like to get more as soon as I have money to do so. Yes hot baths have been great. Talking to some friends who understand what I'm going thru has been really good for me & motivational. I know it gets better & it has been. Since yesterday the days have been bearable, the nights not so much, last night I fished out & flopped around the bed all night. Smoking herb has actually been helpful mentally, which suprised me cause I haven't enjoyed it for quite some time. It would make me uncomfortable paranoid....which I believe has a lot to do with the opiate usage. I'm going to make it a point to go on a walk every morning even if I have to force myself. I know it will help.

Hang in there, man. Keep being good to yourself. Soon, this will all be a thing of the past, and you will have a clean slate to work with.
I wish you the best, and I appreciate you keeping us updated.
Peace