I was wondering if grinding up and soaking in everclear for a couple weeks hwbr seeds would be an effective and potent solution, if so would adding peppermint extract be worthwhile to make LSH or would that be to unstable? let me know if swiy has ever used a high proof alcohol only to make good tintcure

i wouldnt recommend it.

an a/b extraction is usually done to get the initial alks.

then you clean it up and do what you want.


i dont think making a tinture with the seeds would be very practical, but i honestly cannot say i dont have any experience extracting hbwr

but the little research that i have done, tells me that a majority of people use a/b extraction to get lsa.

Well if I wanted to get the most out of my hwbr ( the crazy and potentially visual TRIP) what is my best method of eating or extracting the seeds?

SWIM usually ingests HWBR by chewing them up until they are mush and washing them down with orange juice. It helps with the bad taste. 10 seeds was an intense experience but with no visuals. Body load is pretty high, some bud after ingestion helps somewhat. I believe the nausea is probably from saponins in the seeds. This natural soapy substance is found in quinoa and is a gastro-intestinal irritant. It is a coating on the seeds that gives a bitter taste and deters animals from eating them. Saponins are removed from quinoa seeds with an alkaline solution. This is something SWIM may experiment with in the future.

In regards to extraction methods, water extraction seems to be pretty common. There seems to be lots of different methods out there. The greatest problem is that there is little scientific information on HWBR. It may be through a combination of alkaloids the desirable effects are acquired, not just LSA, and the solubility of other potential alkaloids in different substances doesn't seem well explored.

How can you best describe the experience?

SWIM says he smokes a little bud right after ingestion.
Some degree of nausea may become apparent at around +30 mins and last for an hour or so. With some bud on hand the nausea is fairly manageable.
At around the +60 minute mark there is a feeling of something coming on besides the bud. The nausea gives way to an enjoyable body high and sense of euphoria.
For the next few hours different experiences and states come and go - different physical sensations and switching between being internally and externally focused.

Each time is different but some of the good experiences have been as follows:
- clear and fond recollection of childhood memories
- increased enjoyment of music
- deep physical relaxation
- intense physical stimulation
- objective introspection which lead to mental revelations of sorts and deep understanding of previously emotionally clouded issues
- loss of ego, feeling of being part of the universe rather than a discrete entity, which gave rise to a feeling of inner peace

Some of the bad experiences:
- auditory hallucinations
- paranoia
- unable to maintain coherent thought process
- SWIM once felt like he was experiencing some kind of schizophrenia

Overall the net effect has definitely been positive but I would strongly recommend starting with a low dose, especially for someone not accustomed to strong doses of psychedelics.

It can be quite difficult to sleep afterwards and on a couple of occasions SWIM has awoken with a strange (but not particularly unpleasant) mental fuzziness the next day.