Hi all,

I have been playing with Calea zacatechichi for the past 6 months but I have not been able to get any effects whatsoever. I suspect this might be due to my preparations and/or usage, so I would be more than interested to read how other people prepare and ingest it.

I should also note that I have a very high threshold with ingested entheogens in general. I usually have to ingest 3-5 more times the usual of tryptaminic preparations, whereas phenethylamines do virtually nothing to me. But things are fine when it comes to smoking e.g. tryptamines and salvinorin.

So, that's what I have tried so far with Calea:

1. Smoke up to 2 grams of leaves half an hour before going to sleep
2. Drink tea made with up to 10grams of leaves ~30min before sleep
3. Ingest (in capsules) up to 20grams of powdered Calea ~30min before going to sleep.

During these attempts I have been staying off alcohol and weed (I do not generally smoke weed)

Any suggestions are more than welcome!

20 g of calea directly ingested !! uch ! You have a iron stomach

A strong tea with 5 g is enough for me to get more intense and weirder dreams. But this dreams may happens several hours later (let's say 5 hours). So assuming that you have a very efficient stomach and liver, at the appropriate time (the best time for dreams), your calea alcaloids may be less active.

You could prepare a strong tea with 10 g boiled 20-30 mn, go to sleep for 4 hours, then drink your tea and back to sleep. I bet that it would works !

Thanks for the advice!

I was thinking to try a 5g tea in the morning, then another one for lunch and a final one ~2 hours before going to sleep. I start suspecting that I may not have been boiling enough, I have been usually brewing the calea tea as in normal tea, i.e. add hot water, stir for 5 min, close eyes, bite teeth, wear a grimace on the face, then swallow it in one go.

Drink 10-15g every night for 3-5 nights. Drink your tea and then smoke 1-3g just before bed.

Your not boiling the Calea are you? I don't guess that wouldn't matter I donno... if you can smoke it I suppose you can boil it?

I guess this is not enough

Put 3 cups of water and slightly boil 5 g so that it reduce to 1 cup, filter, this makes a very dark liquid, add a lot of sugar or honey and be a hero.

Sugar and honey just makes it fuckin' worse... it turns into syrup, just drink it pussy.