Can anyone provide additional info/reports on Delosperma sp.? This is a very common and easy to grow landscaping genus in most climates. And it contains 5 meo-DMT, although somewhat reliably. Erowid provides only vague summaries of 2 studies from the 1970's.
Plux's extraction of D. cooperii is interesting but inconclusive. Anyone got first-hand experience?
trouts notes on some other succulents has great information on D. cooperii too...the fish says:
Delosperma cooperi Our initial early spring 1994 assay
showed no alkaloid. May and summer 1995 both showed
a nice 5-MeO-DMT band (we ran the May sample twice).
Plants purchased via mail order had a much darker 5-MeO-
DMT band, in the May assay, than those locally obtained
at a hardware store. Both showed the presence of 5-MeO-
DMT. Assays from September and December 1994 had
shown the presence of DMT. Our early November 1995
tlc of these plants showed both DMT and 5-MeO-DMT
present. Assays were done using both commercial plants
and plants we grew from seed. Commercial plant material
tested by Sasha showed no DMT in GC-MS.
and this from an Edot post that was itself quoting:
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I've played with these a bit. Aya type experiments with fresh foliage produced threshold results, although this is unwise due to the high oxalic acid component of the plants. I have a/b'd twice; there is a report of an extraction of mine tucked away in the lab (embarrasingly gushy blush.gif ) that gave me high hopes, but sadly a repeat experiment with a much greater amount of plant material produced scarcely anything, save confirming to me that desirable alks are indeed present; nice spicey smell but barely visible to the naked eye. For a meaningful extraction you are looking at a lot of plant material. I've never seen any published % for this plant. I have a feeling there must be enviromental, age, harvest time, feeding regime etc. factors at work; although what they may be I don't know...
Regards getting clean material to work with, these must be some of the easiest plants to propagate from cuttings. Broken plant bits stuck in unprepared dirt will root reliably and grow fast
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The 'failed' extraction was 300g of dried and powdered material that was added to highly basified water, extracted x3 with hot naphtha, solvent combined and extracted x3 with phos. acid solution at ph 3, acidic solution basified and extracted again. Solvent evapped to leave little more than the aforementioned 'spicey smell'. Upped ph and tried again, nothing; evapped primary solvent leaving nothing more than a yellow oil. NEVER THROW ANYTHING AWAY; project was abandoned for a year. Last week I aquired some DCM, basic plant sludge was filtered- with difficulty- and extracted. On evap. I was left with a small puddle of yellow oil which smells very nice and is defineately active. Pretty sure my plants contain 5 meo as predominant alkaloid, this stuff is active at just a smidgeon dose and closely relates to microdoses of synthed material. Whether the alkaloid exists naturally in the plant as the N-oxide or my processing formed this I have yet to determine.
To confirm, I put 700g of very wet material through a wheatgrass juicer, defatted x7, basified and extracted with DCM. Left me with a very small quantity of yellow spicey oil that was again active at very small amounts. Dry pulp has been placed in phos. acid solution for when I get the time to extract that; I don't know whether the actives are 'mobile' within the plant juice or fixed within the tissue. Dries awfully light though, so 700g dry equivelency is prob. closer to 20g dry or less.
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