So I will be getting a gram of dpt in a week or so and do not want to snort it. I have friends that will be partaking as well that would not be down to shoot it either. That leaves oral or rectal, the latter of which I doubt any of us would want to do either. That leaves oral dosing. I've heard its not too active orally so can I take it with caapi alks to give the chance to do its thing? If so what should the RIMAPT ratio be? Any and all suggestions are very welcome.

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# 1 medium male: 250 mg oral = intense ride up, "blew his head off", not something to repeat, but good after the initial 45 minute intensity subsided.

# 1 medium male, 1 large male: 250 mg oral had no effect on either. At T+3.5 snorted 200 mgs each and found this level to be good. very interesting, would like to try again.

# 1 medium female: 200 mgs smoked then 200 mgs insufflated = very powerful, caused a bit of a freak ..

# a few people tried it IM at 100, 75, and 50 mg. The most experienced people in this group found it to be quite nice ("this is the tryptamine for me", but the less experienced found it somewhat difficult. A couple of these people also tried smoking it and felt that this was not an optimum delivery route.

# one person who has experience with the material said that oral was more like 5-MeO-DMT and less desirable of an effect. He whole heartedly reccomends IM and insufflation.

Yeah I saw this. It IS active orally but doesnt always work for everyone. Me and 3 friends are all planning on having a dpt "party" I for one definately don't want to inns, and I know at least one of my friends won't either. I was thinking 150mg of caapi alks with 150mg DPT would work out, having another 100mg a pc for a booster if we need it.

Mt first choice would be insufflating. The benefits are it being fast acting and more accuracy in dosing. If taken orally one must consider how full the stomach is, what was eaten that day, getting a proper MAOI dose, and you will have to wait a couple hours to see if you took too little or too much.

i would agree with elf machine, insufflating it would be such a better choice one you can start at a low dose and since effects are quicker, and more noticeable it will be a lot easier to tell what dose effects you the best.

As stated in the OP I really don't want to inns. I used to do meth/coke a lot in highschool and right out of highschool and that ruined my nose. Just last year I insufflated some mdma and I was picking blood-boogers all week. I just read on bluelight that 150mg of harmine taken 30min before 250mg dpt produced excellent effects. Since there is 4 of us splitting the gram that sounds like a perfect way to go. I have an abbundance of caapi alks and those are mostly harmine right? So now i'm thinking T+0: 150mg caapi alks, T+30: 200mg DPT+another 50mg caapis alks. With that ammount of harmalas it should be potentiated into activity. If needed we would each have a booster 50mg/50mg DPT/caapi dose. Is that too much harmalas? I've taken that much with dmt but since dpt is slightly active orally already I don't know

i wasn't trying to force it upon you,its your preference, you don't have to do inns if u do not want to that's obvious, but Yea that Sounds really good let us know the results, and how effective it was the harmine.

I wasn't trying to bitch or anything doc. I would totally IM some if my friends wouldn't get uncomfortable about it and at least one of my friends might not have a problem snorting. My mission here is to share the experience with a few friends and get similar results. If only one of us is snorting then the rest of us might very well still be tripping while he is coming down and that wouldn't be fair. All in all though with that much harmine we could eat some spice and have strong effects so I'm pretty sure that it should be sufficient to potentiate something that is already slightly active orally. I guess we will see. Worst case scenario we don't trip and we have to snort/im 50mg a pc

Will it not work sublingually? That's what I'd go for first.

Well good luck and safe journeys and dont worry i wasn't implying that you were bitchin

I guess it would, but I haven't read any reports of sublingual dosing. I will try for sure but am most definately predosing with the caapi alks. I really don't want a misfire.. Moderator edit..No talk of buying or selling substances or prices, RC or otherwise.

Thanks Doc! I will also be trying 2c-e for the first time soon. I have a dose a friend gave me and a gram on the way

oh jesus just put it in your butt already ;]

I bet that would work I just can't help but think it would be uncomfortable as hell. I have friends that have plugged x and said it burns pretty bad so I just really don't think I'd be able to go through with it. Maybe if you helped me....

I'd recommend trying to do dpt without taking other substances. Its a really interesting experience especially when compared to dmt. Harmaloids will certainly change the character of the experience. However SWIM has only snorted it so can't recommend any other routes. 50mg snorted was enough to obliterate SWIMs reality for a hour or 2.

If I were to snort some. How long does tolerance take to build back up? Like dmt takes like an hour before the same dose will be as effective. How long would we have to wait between bumps? We are planning on making a day of this. And sorry to the powers that be for saying that price.

SWIM did 25mg followed by another 25mg a half hour later. The intensity built for a solid 2 hours then faded over the course of another 2.

I noticed with a lot of trip reports with dpt the bad ones are ones where people just snort 100mg straight away. I think that would be an intense ego crushing reality shattering few hours. 25 and 25 was enough to shatter SWIM.

well what i meant was after coming down could i redose in an hour or so and ride the lightning again? We will have an entire day to play around with this rare compound.

No idea about dpt tolerance sorry. But if you do get really out there you might want to take a break before redosing. Its really earth shattering. In a good way

Well I suppose I will see what youre talking about here in a week or so. thanks for all the help and pray my nose doesn't fall off.