its not easy to find good naptha where SWIM lives ,
SWIM needs to purify some very bad quality jungle , because swim messed up while extracting , heating the fumerate product at a very high temparature thus killing much dmt from the product , so now swim needs to separate the pure dmt whatever is left of it in the product as the smoke has got the dmt buzz but it very mildish ,
swim has got 80 g of very bad jungle fumerate ( this was swims 1st extraction and hoping he would not have to extract for years he made the mistake of extracting very large amount for his 1st extraction ) which swim wants to basify with sodium carbonate and then extract with naptha but good naptha is not so available where swim lives (but he'll get it somehow) so swim wants to now how much naptha to use while extracting the from the pure product as opposed to powdered mimosa ,
generally 1 pound of powdered bark requires 2 litres of naptha total having four washes of 500 ml each , this 80 g fumerate is from 4 pounds of bark , taking that into account swim would have to use 8 liters of naptha (does not sound right as naptha is not easy to arrange and swim is super scared of even having so much naptha at once around him for any reason (don't want to burn the house down or myself)
swim would like to now how much naptha would be sufficient for the extraction considering swim is going to basify 80 g fumerate with approx 250 mg sodium carbonate and going to do 4 naptha pulls divinding each pull to 25% of the total naptha he is going to use ?

First, if she understands correctly, SWIY has smoked "jungle fumarate"? This isn't working because it is a salt - salts for oral doses, freebase for vaporizing. The alkaloid (DMT) is locked to the fumarate molecule and does not readily become "free", if at all, when heated.
Conversion to usable freebase requires 1) dissolve the salt 2) basify the solution 3) extract with a non-polar solvent (naphtha, others)...
Search function and wiki are SWIY's friends - while not immediately obvious, the technical info required is here:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/DMT_N-Oxide_to_Freebase_DMT

and here:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/DMT_Fumarate

the upshot?

DMT fumarate is ~76% N,N DMT by weight and
solubility of DMT freebase in naphtha is ~ 1g/100ml thus
SWIY has (theoretical) 80g * .76 ~ 61 g DMT ; SWIY needs ~ 6.1 L of solvent!
Yes, this is a lot - she guesses that DMT is more soluble than above, but thats the wiki talking.
Good news is, with freeze precipitation, one can keep pulling/recycling until the base solution is spent.
2 liters should be plenty. With some care and patience full recovery should be achieved.

80g dmt?

even if that number is wrong, why are you extracting so much? You cant possibly be smoking/ingesting that much dmt, and I find it hard to believe that someone would have respectful friends to share that much dmt with in a close-intimate-initiatory setting. I seriously hope you are not selling dmt or indiscriminately giving it away.

Also, did I understand that right and you tried smoking dmt fumarate? You have to convert it first to freebase before converting. Also what amount of heat you used that yu said you destroyed dmt? dmt fumarate has very high boiling point... Maybe its not really destroyed?

Lastly, you dont need anything appart from water and sodium carbonate to convert dmt fumarate to freebase.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._Freebase_Conversion_TEK

I suggest type 1, slow water crystallization...

80 grams of DMT fumarate?

Are you sure?

If you have 80g of dirty DMT-fumarate from 4 pounds of bark then I guess it is really dirty!

Check the links from Ljosalfar for the conversion back to freebase. I guess you will loose quite a lot of the weight in that process.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Respects, all. The above links were for some stats/conversion factors only - Endlessness' link is the one. SWIM has never tried conversion/water crystallization - look forward to trying this.
L

[quote=endlessness]80g dmt?

even if that number is wrong, why are you extracting so much? You cant possibly be smoking/ingesting that much dmt, and I find it hard to believe that someone would have respectful friends to share that much dmt with in a close-intimate-initiatory setting. I seriously hope you are not selling dmt or indiscriminately giving it away.

endlessness you're right i should not have been extracting so much unnecessarily but you can rest assured it wont be sold or given away indiscriminately , this was my first extraction and i was foolish thinking that a large scale extraction would suffice for years or this whole lifetime , that has not worked out well ,

i guess it will be reduced quite a bit now , but i am going to do the purification now ,
i know i should not have been extracting this much but i was expecting to do this only once , now whatever i get after the purification i promise to take it slow from now on as having so much is of no good use i guess ,
thanks for replying to the post guys