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shoe
#1 Posted : 12/20/2010 4:12:41 PM

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I have never heard much talk of this in my time on the nexus and I thought it should be brought up:

How do you all cope with the other people you live with, and your DMT extraction? Has anyone got
really lazy and really messy with their extractions, leaving lots of half-used pots and pans laying around?
after extracting and evaporating in different places around the house, just since over time things change?
SWIM's real glad he's managed to sort that mess out. He basically had dedicated a cupboard to extraction
stuff with various glass plates, beakers and loads of jars, with different experiments, different extractions
at different stages, other extractions, other experiments, collected residues from extractions for cleanup,
and things SWIM just plain forgot what they were and reagents, of course.

When SWIM was living by his own means, He had a few flatmates who were generally
drug-friendly so SWIM could just explain that he was extracting DMT, and carry on.
There were a few complaints about 'the smell of paint stripper' and once SWIM's
freeze precipitation leaked in the fridge and contaminated all of the food. We had to
clean the fridge out and throw a lot of the oven-chips and other things like that out,
since the potato had just soaked up the taste. It takes an extremely small amount to be able to
taste and smell naptha, when mixed with food. I'm sure people would notice even one drop
if it were spilt in the freezer and left there.

This is a bit of a mystery to me. How does one evaporate a pint or so of naphtha
without being noticed?

Now SWIM lives with his parental family unit, and doesn't feel like communicating the details
of ritual shamanic DMT use, or bearing the burden of having to explain it.

He must extract in secret. And so begins the story of the busy little robin.
The goal is to get away with a drytek, 500g of mimosa for 5g DMT using MgSO4 to
make anhydrous acetone, then making the mHRB basic with sodium carbonate.
Sodium carbonate is prepared from sodium bicarbonate by baking. MgSO4 is prepared
from epsom salts, simmelarly by baking, at 205*C.

The anhydrous acetone and sodium bicaronate will be bought tomorrow. SWIM has epsom
salts allready. Evaporating will be done in a rarely-used outhouse/cottage assisted by fan
heater, a couple of hours every (unattended) night.

SWIM will report back in a few weeks, with pictures and progress.
shoe

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#2 Posted : 12/20/2010 5:10:57 PM

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Come on shoe, you out of all people should know very well how we stand regarding to extracting without the house owner's consent. Its a big no-no! We specifically say this in the attitude section:

• We are against people extracting or using substances in student dorms/parents/shared houses or any other unsafe place or where the owners or roommates do not agree with what is being done. We do not give tips on 'stealth' teks. Do not do it unless the owner of the place accepts his/her full responsibility on the actions being done. If you dont have such a place to extract now, be patient, many have waited years and years for the right moment.

I know you dont sell things and are careful but you are still putting in danger your family's property and safety because of what you do, so please reconsider it!
 
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#3 Posted : 12/20/2010 9:38:41 PM

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Thanks endlessness, I had no idea you cared!
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#4 Posted : 12/20/2010 9:43:05 PM
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The only thing i would find more frustrating than hiding an extraction would be having it found & destroyed
 
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#5 Posted : 12/20/2010 9:59:34 PM

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Im not sure I understand your answer shoe, I hope you didnt take my post as insult. Appart from honestly worrying about you and your family, I also think we really gotta think that all the posts we make here can also influence others, and the last thing we want is an older member such as yourself suggesting an action that is against the attitude we stand for.

I hope you find a trustable friend willing to let his house be used for extractions, so that nobody unknowingly has to be in danger for your actions. Peace!
 
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#6 Posted : 12/20/2010 10:55:13 PM

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It is simply disrespectful to extract in your parents house without permission.

DMT isn't going anywhere.

Why don't you worry about getting back on your feet first? Seems your priorities are a bit off man..
 
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#7 Posted : 12/20/2010 11:30:32 PM



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Theres been plenty of threads like this shoe..Even if you haven't seen them, you should have known how people here would respond to this Confused




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#8 Posted : 12/21/2010 1:20:29 AM

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aloneits wrote:
It is simply disrespectful to extract in your parents house without permission.

DMT isn't going anywhere.

Why don't you worry about getting back on your feet first? Seems your priorities are a bit off man..


What do you mean, back on my feet? in regards to what? I'm genuinely just confused with this...
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#9 Posted : 12/21/2010 1:46:12 AM

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I meant when you are in a living situation where you don't have to hide illegal drug extractions.. (ie. your own place)
 
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#10 Posted : 12/21/2010 3:15:28 AM

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more to the point... oven chips are gross anyway.
 
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#11 Posted : 12/21/2010 10:24:26 PM

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aloneits wrote:
I meant when you are in a living situation where you don't have to hide illegal drug extractions.. (ie. your own place)


my own place again. I can tell you being the first child doesn't make life easy, youre the prototype so things are never worked through beforehand. I had to chuck that place if i was to ever free myself from playing landlord. Additionally, Never live with anyone you're not in a loving relationship with, and buy a dishwasher and get it fitted. You'll never regret it.
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#12 Posted : 12/21/2010 10:38:07 PM

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Swim is paranoid, he only makes it using the lazymans all inside a 1 gallon jug, no smell no mess, then after all the pulls and freeze precip, he cleans everything up immediately. It just isn't worth the risk of leaving anything like that around considering the consequences of if you get busted for it. You never know your ex-girlfriend or someone could get mad at you and call the cops on you, or something else, and then your life is ruined when you could have just cleaned everything up.
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#13 Posted : 12/22/2010 9:08:08 AM

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I've said it before and i will say it again: Stating that DMT is going nowhere is overly simplistic. Tell a churchgoer, that he can't attend service...but well "Church isn't going anywhere".

Also, the situation in the US is diffferent the situation in Europe. In the US, you can make your family lose the house. In at least some european countries, you just take the blame in the worst case scenario.

While it is certainly not the most respectful thing to do to your parents, i believe that things have to be discussed in a more differentiated way. DMT is NOT just some drug...some piece of candy you can eat anytime. It can very well be spiritual, religious and possibly life saving. I would say most of us know, that having the experience at the right time can be crucial...so i totally understand the urge to extract secretly.

That being said, finding a safe place to extract would be the best solution, without a doubt. What about your drug friendly friends? Maybe they can help you out. Choose a quick and easy tek and then do it in their apts or houses.
 
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Autodidactic wrote:
Swim is paranoid, he only makes it using the lazymans all inside a 1 gallon jug, no smell no mess, then after all the pulls and freeze precip, he cleans everything up immediately. It just isn't worth the risk of leaving anything like that around considering the consequences of if you get busted for it.


Swim is going to do a quick lazyman type tek as he is at his parents atm too. Hes fell out with the gf as well, mother wasnt up for some dmt extraction but shes been kind enough to let swim store his solvents and mimosa but no way could he extract there or want to, just isnt the correct setting for any voyaging for swim. As oblighul said maybe at a friends house would be the best option, this is what swim is planning though hes in no rush, sure your mother wouldnt be too happy if she had to throw out all the food from the freezer lol
 
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#15 Posted : 12/22/2010 4:30:50 PM

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This thread is locked as it deals with performing an extraction in a house whose owners have no knowledge of said extraction, nor have they consented to it. Shoe, I dunno what to tell you man, when I'm with my parents, I either tell them what's up or I don't do anything. I'm actually currently ordering supplies for a Rue extraction that I'll be doing in my folks' house over break and I've told them everything that's going on, regardless of the fact that it's not a controlled substance. If I were to be doing a dmt extraction alongside it (as I have in the past) you damn well better believe that I'd be giving them a heads up on that too. I feel you on being the first-born, but tough cookies, that's life.

Either find another location for your extraction or just wait. There's really not much else to say. I am somewhat surprised that you would post this/not share what's going on with your folks in their own house, but I don't know you and your situation and as such will not comment. Please stay safe.

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#16 Posted : 12/22/2010 6:35:09 PM

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After discussing this with a few members in the chat I unlocked this thread.

It's not to sidestep Snozz but this is a recurring theme and people want to give advice on finding alternatives. So I hope Snozz won't reign down on me. Pleased


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If you cant do it at home just find some extraction friendly buddies or you could rent a hotel room.
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#18 Posted : 12/22/2010 7:40:51 PM
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Well having your own place is prefered off course.

Still even IF you extract DMT in your own place; Imagine your house catching fire and then firemen coupled with Police officers enter your house and find a DMT-extraction in process... Or some anti-drugs ignorant fool seeing this in your house and calling the cops on you?

In any case it is best to conduct DMT extractions stealthy like a Psychedelic Ninja.

I have allways thought that for someone who frequently makes strange extracts of strange plants it is best to put all solvents,
mixtures and bags of plantmaterial(If they're not used directly) away in a wooden chest or a cardboard box in your closet.

Also, if you precepiate alot of legally questionable substances out of solutions and such, it might not be a bad idea to buy a secondhand refrigerator.
This way you'll never have to worry about Xylene or DiEthyl Ether contaminated foods either. This refrigerator may be covered up with a cloth to make it look like a table.

As for evaporating solvenst off to yield some legally questionable crystals: Invest in a Destillation-set.
Destilling off solvents has 3 main advantages over letting solvents evaporise off;
-No toxic or flamable fumes
-No suspicions or complaints by neighbors about excessive "paint-thinner" smells
-No loss of Solvent: solvent can be stored and used again many times for more extractions.
 
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SKA wrote:
Well having your own place is prefered off course.

Still even IF you extract DMT in your own place; Imagine your house catching fire and then firemen coupled with Police officers enter your house and find a DMT-extraction in process... Or some anti-drugs ignorant fool seeing this in your house and calling the cops on you?

In any case it is best to conduct DMT extractions stealthy like a Psychedelic Ninja.

I have allways thought that for someone who frequently makes strange extracts of strange plants it is best to put all solvents,
mixtures and bags of plantmaterial(If they're not used directly) away in a wooden chest or a cardboard box in your closet.

Also, if you precepiate alot of legally questionable substances out of solutions and such, it might not be a bad idea to buy a secondhand refrigerator.
This way you'll never have to worry about Xylene or DiEthyl Ether contaminated foods either. This refrigerator may be covered up with a cloth to make it look like a table.

As for evaporating solvenst off to yield some legally questionable crystals: Invest in a Destillation-set.
Destilling off solvents has 3 main advantages over letting solvents evaporise off;
-No toxic or flamable fumes
-No suspicions or complaints by neighbors about excessive "paint-thinner" smells
-No loss of Solvent: solvent can be stored and used again many times for more extractions.


A good idea might be to elaborate a cover-up to explain why you have glassware and solvents (aromatherapy for instance) that way you will keep cool if anyone
asks about it. Having a clean place will also raise much less suspicion if the cops knock at your door.

However, european nexians should also understand that unless they have previous drug charges it's extremely unlikely that they will go to prison for a dmt extraction, this is not the us.
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#20 Posted : 12/22/2010 8:07:46 PM

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Well, I don't think you should do it at home, if your folks don't know about it. It's disrespectful and psychologically straining, keeping secrets like that. It's not a good state of mind to be in for anything, so it's bad mojo for your work.

Try to think of some more positive alternatives. I think the idea of doing it at a friend's house is great. Or rent out a self-storage facility where you can get some privacy, if you can find something that is reasonably safe.

As obliguhl stated above the need or desire to work with the spice and the timing are not so easily just put aside. Every time I've had the urge to undergo psychedelic transformations and denied myself or was denied the experience, it came back ten fold eventually, and made me realize that I'd needed it for a long time. It's not good to suppress these things unnecessarily because often there are waves (within and without) that we need to ride. If we miss them we might end up spending months or years of our lives stuck in a state that we should have already overcome.
However, without wanting to try to dissuade you from your endeavor, do at least consider alternatives, since your conditions seem less than optimal.

I wish you the best of luck figuring it out.
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