We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
Why dont STB on cacti and Mezc freeze precip? Options
 
Pancho
#1 Posted : 12/15/2010 10:24:39 PM

Reality Gazer


Posts: 86
Joined: 20-Jul-2009
Last visit: 16-May-2013
Location: Chile
Ive always wonder why anyone try or talk about make a STB on cacti with a freeze precipitation of mezcaline from the solvant...¿?

Is mezcaline free base hard to precip? Do Anyone knows why? Do Anyone have done or tried this?

Im doing the youtube video extraction (powder, NaOH, xylene, HCl, evaporate water) and this question came to me, because I think that warming the enamal pan to evaporate water, heating it on fire, a part of the alkaloids could burn at the end (react into another shit or whatever).

I have seen Space as kaleidoscopic chambers of infinite Knowledge,
I have seen Time as a semiLiquid mass on the hands of a pharaoh,
I have seen God as a warm and white, full of Love Dimention.
...am I really Seeing right now?


Death is the road to awe
 

Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
burnt
#2 Posted : 12/15/2010 11:20:21 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Extreme Chemical expertChemical expertSenior Member

Posts: 3555
Joined: 13-Mar-2008
Last visit: 07-Jul-2024
Location: not here
Quote:
Is mezcaline free base hard to precip? Do Anyone knows why? Do Anyone have done or tried this?


Yes. Physiochemical properties. Maybe but it hasn't worked.
 
dg
#3 Posted : 12/15/2010 11:23:51 PM
DMT-Nexus member

Cacti expert

Posts: 1175
Joined: 10-Jun-2010
Last visit: 27-Apr-2016
Pancho wrote:

Is mezcaline free base hard to precip? Do Anyone knows why? Do Anyone have done or tried this?


first, yes, stb is common practice// and freeze precip has been tried extensively

mescaline freebase is a caustic oily substance/ no it wont precip out of np solvent as freebase(at least easily), if it did it'd be pretty ugly and needing further clean up anyways

you can add acid directly to the np and force precip, typically via gassing with hcl gas- again this is also a dirty precip (this method will still be leagues ahead of zims extraction as far as the final product goes)

forcing precipitation after separating the alkaloids using water is the best route to clean mescaline imo


and mescaline alkaloids wont be damaged at boiling temps -- 220*F. But, if you let it dry out completely on a burner the temps get far higher


 
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.009 seconds.