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#1 Posted : 11/23/2010 10:33:47 PM

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I used watcha's easy mhrb stb extraction with v&p naptha and pure lye crystals.

A dark orange color has settled to the bottom of the jug while the the spice on the walls of the jugs look almost a pure white.

I used 2 milk jugs and a regular plastic juice jug which the solvent ended up in to freeze parcipitate for 3 days. I realize milk jugs are made of polyethylene. Was it safe to use a regular plastic jug?

Did I not wash it good enough? Is this safe?

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#2 Posted : 11/23/2010 11:07:52 PM

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I did 2 sodium carbonate washes. a cold water wash. and a dry epsom salt wash.
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#3 Posted : 11/23/2010 11:21:03 PM

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#4 Posted : 11/23/2010 11:30:39 PM

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thanks mate. i was guessing it's just fats and oils. the crystals from the sides of the jug is such a pure white i didn't think was possible with this tek. sparkling like little diamonds =D
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#5 Posted : 11/24/2010 5:04:31 AM

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Well I guess the question to ask is, Did you follow the Tek correctly? If the answer is yes, I would not second guess a thing. If you follow the Tek its pretty much impossible to come up with anything that is going to harm you.

I would vape it.

Just a reccomendation. Next time use a wide mouth, smooth glass jar for your collection jar. It just makes it so much easier to visually inspect your final product and allot easier to get it out.

It does appear you have some fats and ? that came over from the MHRB with the spice. Not a problem a simple ReX will take care of that. You could dissolve whats in the plastic container with warm Naphtha or Bestine and pour it into a smooth jar. Evap a bit and then freeze precip again or evap it all in an evap dish.

You can vape it now with no ReX, No problem. It just depends on what you like and what you are comfortable with. I probably would make changa out of it as is and say hell with the ReX.

Pat yourself on the back. Except for the poor choice in containers it looks like you did a good job.
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#6 Posted : 11/24/2010 9:08:44 AM

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That's the results of Whatcha's tek. Every time I've followed that one (3x I think) I've gotten that or similar color spice. In his pictorial his spice looks about the same too. It's perfectly ok to smoke, in fact some of the better smoke I've had has come from that tek even if it's off in color. Enjoy! Very happy
 
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#7 Posted : 11/24/2010 10:11:31 AM

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swim got pale yelow spice with watcha
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#8 Posted : 11/24/2010 11:24:21 PM

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I don't think it is accurate saying a certain tek will give a particular result. I have done a modified version of Noman's tek for over a year and have had different results each time. It depends on so many variables as to what color your spice is after extracting... but then again i have never done watcha's tek so can't comment on that particularly.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/24/2010 11:31:52 PM
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Not sure if you've looked into Q21's tek but you can get a 1% yeild pretty easily with it, and ime it's all white all the time, you do need is a fair amount of Naphtha i've found though.

When i was STBing with issues id've liked someone to suggest it as an alternative.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/25/2010 3:44:05 AM

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Chronic wrote:
Not sure if you've looked into Q21's tek but you can get a 1% yeild pretty easily with it, and its all white all the time, all you need is a fair amount of Naphtha
Its really good mate, if i was STBing with lye id want someone to suggest it Pleased Or maybe thats like me taking the moral high ground or someshit lol you might actually want yellow spice...
Im not the best for advice on extraction but im glad i did Q21's tek & felt i should suggest it



Q21's tek is a great tek. I would NEVER bash that tek.

Lye is bad stuff if used without proper PPE.

That being said.

Lye works really good and if you are safe lye works great. If you do the tek propery there will be no lye what so ever in your spice. Not even a teeny tiny ammount. NONE.

Lye gets a bad rap some times. Have some confidence in your skills and attention to detail.

Yellow spice versus white spice? Really?

If I understand the process correctly color of spice has nothing to do with the lye, color has more to do with temperature and type of solvent.

I challenge any experienced DMT user to distinguish between yellow and white in a blind test.


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#11 Posted : 11/25/2010 10:52:10 AM
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Yeah i doubt there is that much difference between the two in the end, but there's something undeniably nice about yielding white spice that doesn't need to be re-X'd everytime.

I can only go off my experience & the 2 times i tried an STB first i got red naphtha, then got very yellow naphtha, scraping up crystals stuck to waxy goo & re-xing, or scraping pure fluffy white spice straight out the freezer, i know which i prefer... the only time i would feel the need to re-X is to grow pretty crystals.
 
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#12 Posted : 11/25/2010 9:56:44 PM

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Chronic wrote:
but there's something undeniably nice about yielding white spice that doesn't need to be re-X'd everytime



Yellow spice doesnt NEED to be re-X'd.

The only people that NEED to ReX yellow spice are the ones who think that white spice is pure and yellow spice is dirty.

I challenge any experienced DMT user to distinguish between yellow and white in a blind test.


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#13 Posted : 11/30/2010 1:32:05 AM

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Yeah I've found it's all good - does taste different though more on the lips ^ so the test wouldn't work imo.

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#14 Posted : 3/24/2011 5:42:03 PM

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USE GLASS...I imagine plastic would be incredibly frustrating to work with...
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#15 Posted : 3/24/2011 5:43:19 PM

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What the heck is that stuff at the bottom? An apple slice?
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#16 Posted : 3/24/2011 6:02:17 PM

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It looks like you accidentally let some water into your freeze percip stage, this can potentially cause a loss of yield, and in the future i would take further steps to ensure no water enters the freezer. Congrats on your yield!
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#17 Posted : 3/24/2011 7:01:03 PM

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this happens to me on nearly all stb ext ive done(not that ive done that many lol)
but yea its probably just plant fats/oils i find if i get a lot of it it really helps to do a mini a/b ext on it, or you can re-ex again.
id seperate as much of the white stuff as possible keep it seperate an then do a mini a/b on the yellow stuff left at the bottom to clear it up. once its dissolved in an acid you can run the liquid through a coffee filter an that will remove most of the yellow stuff oils/fats. then just basify again add np and do a few pulls until the liquid has gone from milky to clear.
imo i would say that the mixture and/or solvent you had got a lil too hot and pulled too much oils into the solvent which then when cooled fell out of the np before the spice leaving you with the yellow crusty/sticky stuff at the bottom. it is possible to get rid if this stuff before you freeze precip the dmt out. you just need to put the dish in the freezer for 10-20 mins an most the yellow gunk will settle on the bottom before the dmt crashes out you can them just tip the solvent into a clean dish and repeat a few times if needed, but bear in mind if your solvent is very saturated with dmt it may not work very well as the dmt will crash out before the gunk settles but it does seem to work well otherwise and its easy to tell if its too saturated as dmt will crash out at a lil cooler than room temp

i find the yellow stuff to have more of body load and have wot id call more negative after effects, but thats just me, purer white spice is just more visual and less of a body buzz and its something i really do prefer. it just seems a much cleaner nicer trip. but there really is little difference between the 2, but imo purer is always better.
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#18 Posted : 3/25/2011 5:09:52 PM

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Honestly, can anyone tell me what that is in the bottom of the container? it looks really weird...lol
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#19 Posted : 3/25/2011 5:11:30 PM

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OOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH....its froze orange gunk that you broke off of the bottom...sorry, noob alert
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