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The Plaid
#1 Posted : 8/30/2010 4:50:03 AM

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Does anyone here have any insight as to whether the Tamisium Extractor system might have application for producing spice? I use this baby, whom I call my "Clever Girl," for making Phoenix Tears; and, I'm fairly certain that by adding Naptha to my carrier solvent I should be able to extract psilocybin fairly efficiently at some point in the future. However, what I would really like to do is to teach my Clever Girl how to conjure hyperspace. Anyone out there with the knowledge and the power?
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Infundibulum
#2 Posted : 8/30/2010 2:38:18 PM

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The Plaid wrote:
Does anyone here have any insight as to whether the Tamisium Extractor system might have application for producing spice? I use this baby, whom I call my "Clever Girl," for making Phoenix Tears; and, I'm fairly certain that by adding Naptha to my carrier solvent I should be able to extract psilocybin fairly efficiently at some point in the future. However, what I would really like to do is to teach my Clever Girl how to conjure hyperspace. Anyone out there with the knowledge and the power?

Wow, this extractor does look pretty neat! but it'll be a pain in the ass to use for dmt I'd presume.

As for psilocybin, why you'd assume that it would be extracted using butane? My intuition would say that it's not going to happen, with psilocybin being insoluble in many organic solvents.

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The Plaid
#3 Posted : 9/1/2010 12:07:54 AM

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all of my chemistry knowledge is self-acquired, and mostly only recently obtained, but i'm fairly certain that by adding naptha to the recovery tank prior to the extraction, you would be utilizing the naptha as your primary solvent, and the butane would then be acting as the carrier solvent. i realize that the process described above is omitting a number of steps, but the issue in question is the function of the butane.
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Infundibulum
#4 Posted : 9/1/2010 8:04:58 AM

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The Plaid wrote:
all of my chemistry knowledge is self-acquired, and mostly only recently obtained, but i'm fairly certain that by adding naptha to the recovery tank prior to the extraction, you would be utilizing the naptha as your primary solvent, and the butane would then be acting as the carrier solvent. i realize that the process described above is omitting a number of steps, but the issue in question is the function of the butane.

Well, I told you already; psilocybin is insoluble in most organic solvents. Moreso in aliphatics. Butane is an aliphatic, and so is naphtha. Butane is actually a special category of naphtha, special because it boils at around 0 celsius and so one needs extra equipment to work with it.

I do not understand how you usr the terms carrier solvent, or primary solvent, if psilocybin is not soluble in them it won't be extracted. Or you assume that the carrier butane extracts every compound from the mushrooms?


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The Plaid
#5 Posted : 9/7/2010 5:05:17 AM

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First of all, I would like to thank you for your continued interest in my question; secondly, I need to apologize for a mistake that I have made: methanol can be used as an effective solvent for psilocybin and baeocystin, and is sometimes referred to as "wood naptha." I misunderstood the colloquialism and interpreted methanol as being synonymous with VM&P Naptha.
As per your confusion regarding my usage of the terms "primary," and "carrier" solvent, I apologize for my lack of clarity. The Tamisium Essential Oils Extractor consists of a column that contains the organic material that seals to a recovery tank. In normal extraction (THC for example), the recovery tank is filled with acetone, the column is filled with cannabis, and butane is introduced into the device via one-way valve at the top of the column. The desired essential oils are deposited into the acetone bath, and through temperature inversion the butane is reclaimed into a separate/additional reclamation tank (for re-use). In this example, butane is the only, and therefore, primary solvent.
The Tamisium can also be used to extract from polar biomass, but in order to do so, a polar solvent must be used. To accomplish this, the separate/additional reclamation tank is addressed first. The polar solvent (in my hypothetical case: methanol in a liquid state), is deposited in the reservoir which is then sealed and pressurized with aerosol butane. The biomass is deposited in the column and then the solvents are introduced through the top valve mentioned above.
The Tamisium is a closed system that required pressurization to work, so in this case butane becomes the "carrier" solvent which gives the polar methanol "primary" solvent a ride through the column to work its' magic.
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