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EscapingTheMatrix
#1 Posted : 7/23/2010 8:42:48 AM

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This was sort of a guide given to me by a member here of his extraction methods, although I revised it to keep it simple enough for me to understand, I still feel that it's incomplete. I'm also confused on a particular part of the extraction. I'll post it,....can any experienced extractors "fill in the blanks" where I'm missing something? And for all purposes, keep it simple. I'm not a science novice.

"Step 1: u are going to use- Mimosa holstilis root bark in ur extractions. Buy 400-500 gr mimosa bark first.

Step 2: Buy LYE.

Step 3: Buy Naphta

Step 4: Buy 4 Jars. Scientific, pickle or otherwise.

Step 5: Buy a PH-meter or PH paper.


Specified Formula for extraction: 100gr bark / 60-70gr naoh / 700-800ml total water / 120ml naphta for each pull(4x120)

To begin: Step 6: If you didn't buy the bark already powdered, grind in a blender 100gr of Mimosa Holstillis bark and place it within JAR A.

Step 7: Add 600ml water to JAR A. So you now have 100gr of grinded Mimosa Holstillis bark and 600ml of water within JAR A. (600ml water+Grinded Mimosa=JAR A)

Step 8:In JAR B put 100-200ml of WATER and add 60-70gr of NAOH. Note* The chemical reaction of the two will get very HOT, be careful! Stir JAR B so the Noah+water dissolves correctly.

Step 9: COMBINE JAR B to JAR A. Combine JAR B containing 100-200ml of water + 60-70gr of naoh into JAR A.

Step 10: Stir Jar A to make sure all remaining bark is dissolved and that there is no harden pieces.

Step 11: Measure 120ml Naphta(solvent) into a clean jar (jar C)

Step 12: Get a baking pan and add some warm to hot water to it. You will then place JAR C which contains your solvent into the baking pan in order to warm the solvent. Let JAR C warm for 2 minutes.

Step 13: After 2 minutes of warming your solvent in the pan, pour JAR C into now JAR A.

Step 14: STIR gently again and place a lid over JAR A.

Step 15: STIR JAR A, 3 times a day. DO NOT SHAKE JAR or else you will cause emulsions. And the layers will not separate.

Step 16: After 24 hours, get a turkey baster or big syringe. You will now have 2 layers. Suck the top layer (which is transparent looking) out and place it in another jar.

Step 17: Prepare 120ml of NAPHTA(solvent) into JAR C again and warn it for 2 minutes.

Step 18: ADD the warmed NAPHTA(solvent) to your remaining solvent from JAR A. Remember the top layer you removed? After removing the top layer you had a bottom layer left in JAR A; ADD the warmed NAPHTA in JAR C to the remaining solvent in JAR A. Then stir gently and put a lid on it.

Step 19: Stir JAR A 3 times a day ......again and let it settle for 24 hours. This will have been the second pull which equals 48 hours.

Step 20: Suck the second pull into the same container as the first pull??? What first pull? I removed a top layer from my first pull after 24 hours, I am now removing my second pull after 48 hours, what do I do with it now? Remove the top layer again?

Step 21: Put your final pull in the freezer on a temperature cold enough to harden ice-cream. Then pull after 24 hours.
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Mercury_Hg
#2 Posted : 7/23/2010 9:12:48 AM

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EscapingTheMatrix wrote:
This was sort of a guide given to me by a member here of his extraction methods, although I revised it to keep it simple enough for me to understand, I still feel that it's incomplete. I'm also confused on a particular part of the extraction. I'll post it,....can any experienced extractors "fill in the blanks" where I'm missing something? And for all purposes, keep it simple. I'm not a science novice.

"Step 1: u are going to use- Mimosa holstilis root bark in ur extractions. Buy 400-500 gr mimosa bark first.

Step 2: Buy LYE.

Step 3: Buy Naphta

Step 4: Buy 4 Jars. Scientific, pickle or otherwise.

Step 5: Buy a PH-meter or PH paper. (not necessary)


Specified Formula for extraction: 100gr bark / 60-70gr naoh ((I recommend equal amounts of lye to MHRB, it makes separation much easier, no emulsions, and it's definitely basic enough))/ 700-800ml total water / 120ml naphta for each pull(4x120)

To begin: Step 6: If you didn't buy the bark already powdered, grind in a blender 100gr of Mimosa Holstillis bark and place it within JAR A.

Step 7: Add 600ml water to JAR A. So you now have 100gr of grinded Mimosa Holstillis bark and 600ml of water within JAR A. (600ml water+Grinded Mimosa=JAR A)

Step 8:In JAR B put 100-200ml of WATER and add 60-70gr of NAOH. Note* The chemical reaction of the two will get very HOT, be careful! Stir JAR B so the Noah+water dissolves correctly.

Step 9: COMBINE JAR B to JAR A. Combine JAR B containing 100-200ml of water + 60-70gr of naoh into JAR A.

Step 10: Stir Jar A to make sure all remaining bark is dissolved and that there is no harden pieces.(not necessary, if powdered sufficiently shaking will get rid of any clumps)

Step 11: Measure 120ml Naphta(solvent) into a clean jar (jar C)

Step 12: Get a baking pan and add some warm to hot water to it. You will then place JAR C which contains your solvent into the baking pan in order to warm the solvent. Let JAR C warm for 2 minutes.(not necessary, but helps hold more solute)

Step 13: After 2 minutes of warming your solvent in the pan, pour JAR C into now JAR A.

Step 14: STIR gently again and place a lid over JAR A.

Step 15: STIR JAR A, 3 times a day. DO NOT SHAKE JAR or else you will cause emulsions. And the layers will not separate. (not true if basic enough)

Step 16: After 24 hours, get a turkey baster or big syringe. You will now have 2 layers. Suck the top layer (which is transparent looking) out and place it in another jar.

Step 17: Prepare 120ml of NAPHTA(solvent) into JAR C again and warn it for 2 minutes.

Step 18: ADD the warmed NAPHTA(solvent) to your remaining solvent from JAR A. Remember the top layer you removed? After removing the top layer you had a bottom layer left in JAR A; ADD the warmed NAPHTA in JAR C to the remaining solvent in JAR A. Then stir gently and put a lid on it.

Step 19: Stir JAR A 3 times a day ......again and let it settle for 24 hours. This will have been the second pull which equals 48 hours.(too long, me thinks, only wait as long as it takes to separate cleanly, after it separates it's not going to extract any more DMT)

Step 20: Suck the second pull into the same container as the first pull??? What first pull? I removed a top layer from my first pull after 24 hours, I am now removing my second pull after 48 hours, what do I do with it now? Remove the top layer again?

Step 20.5: Evaporate 75% of naptha to increase saturation.
Step 21: Put your final pull in the freezer on a temperature cold enough to harden ice-cream. Then pull after 24 hours.

Step 22: Pour off naptha, keep for future pulls. Make sure not to pour off crystals

Step 23: Keep crystals COVERED in an airtight container and allow the container and crystals to reach room temperature naturally.

Step 24: Uncover, let last bit of naptha evaporate.

Step 25. Scrape up crystals. You can recrystallize, wash, and smoke, or just smoke. Your choice.


Disclaimer: Everything I say is the truth.
 
cellux
#3 Posted : 7/23/2010 10:09:01 AM

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I can't say whether your tek is correct or not (looks good based on what I've learned here), but I feel you should definitely add the following safety warnings for those who may find it in the future:

1. When handling lye, wear gloves and glasses (lye may cause blindness if it gets into the eye)
2. Never keep solvents near open flame or equipment that may cause electrical sparks
3. Evaporate solvents in a well-ventilated area, do not inhale the fumes
 
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#4 Posted : 7/23/2010 8:07:23 PM

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Whats fantastic to learn about with an STB extraction like this one, is that lye/NaOH overkill (A large amount far beyond recommended numbers and then some) is GOOD.

When you add everything into a solution (MHRB, Lye, Water) you need to add enough lye so that the mixture you have in your container is completely, totally jet black. This is your PH-meter; it's a good amount when the solution is completely black. Maybe even add some more after that Razz

Don't be worried about amounts so much, with an STB extraction, you literally must sabotage your own extraction to ruin it. What I'm saying is, you can't mess up if you tried.

Just remember to be very, very safe with lye. It is a highly caustic substances and will eat through your hands and your walls (Don't ask).

When I first joined I tried making my own tek as well, I'm glad I didn't go through with it and instead just checked the wiki to find a good one.

Easiest tek for the easiest extraction out there:
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Noman's_tek
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#5 Posted : 7/23/2010 8:59:31 PM

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Yea, no need for pH test in an STB. Add enough base for it to turn black, and then some more for good measure. Best of luck, be safe!
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Mercury_Hg
#6 Posted : 7/24/2010 1:40:53 AM

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Steely wrote:
When I first joined I tried making my own tek as well, I'm glad I didn't go through with it and instead just checked the wiki to find a good one.


I think he's "creating his own tek" as a way to validate his knowledge on the extraction. If you can write a good tek, you obviously know what you're doing and can proceed to actually doing it.
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EscapingTheMatrix
#7 Posted : 8/6/2010 4:29:05 PM

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Step 16: After 24 hours, get a turkey baster or big syringe. You will now have 2 layers. Suck the top layer (which is transparent looking) out and place it in another jar.

Hey guys, I have a question on the separation of the the 2 layers. Which layer is the one I actually need? The top or bottom layer? The top layer is suppose to be clear right? And the bottom is suppose to be nearly black, so is that the layer I actually need? Can I dispose of the top layer or put it to the side somewhere?

I know your suppose to separate the two layers then add more solvent (Naphta) to your remaining layers, ....now am I adding more solvent to the bottom layer or the clear top layer? Im just confused about which layer I actually save! The clear top layer or the dark bottom layer?

Thanks guys......it's almost time to extract.
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#8 Posted : 8/6/2010 5:03:51 PM

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Mercury_Hg wrote:
EscapingTheMatrix wrote:

Step 20.5: Evaporate 75% of naptha to increase saturation.
Step 21: Put your final pull in the freezer on a temperature cold enough to harden ice-cream. Then pull after 24 hours.

Step 22: Pour off naptha, keep for future pulls. Make sure not to pour off crystals

Step 23: Keep crystals COVERED in an airtight container and allow the container and crystals to reach room temperature naturally.

Step 24: Uncover, let last bit of naptha evaporate.

Step 25. Scrape up crystals. You can recrystallize, wash, and smoke, or just smoke. Your choice.




As per step 23, why would you allow the container (still containing a bit of solvent) to come to room temperature? If you do this, the room temperature solvent will redissolve some of the crystals.
In my opinion this is unnecessary. I just decant the solvent and place it right in front of a fan to evaporate before it has a chance to dissolve anything.
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