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robert whitfield
#1 Posted : 6/30/2010 11:47:13 PM
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Hi first post swim thinks

Swim told me this funny story

He mixed 50g lye with 50g powdered MHRB and 750ml distilled water in a hdpe container (he did 2 containers in total both with this same ratio mix), he then added 500ml xylene to each container and shook like hell the containers then stood for a few days.

He took approx 250ml of the xylene from one of the containers and salted with FASA Swim susspects he used far too much FASA also the FASA was so saturated there was exess fumeric acid crystals at the bottom of the bottle (this did not bother swim too much as he used a dropper to take the FASA from the bottle), a slightly yellow precipitate formed on the sides of the jar also a small amound of perfectly white precipitate formed and was suspended in the solvent.

He filtered the solvent and the white precipitate was caught in the filter paper, the yellow precipitate stuck to the jar.

The filter paper and the jar were left for the residual xylene to evaporate, there was around 120mg of the white preipitate and after scraping the jar around 240mg yellow precipitate.

SWIM loves to speculate and he said the white crystals could just be fumeric acid but he is not sure if this would have crashed out of the FASA/xylen soulution ?

Anyhow he then took approx 250ml xylene (that had been sitting with the basic solution for a few more days) and evaped it, the residue was amber and sticky and he scrapped it all up with a razor.

The residue when scrapped up and rolled into a ball went harder and was not very sticky, if he played with the ball it went softer and sticky as it got hotter.

He got 420mg of this stuff it looked black with amber tinge and smelt kinda wierd creasote like, he tryed smoking 30mg on foil and got mild pshycoactive effects, perhaps equivlant to .3g pysilocybin mushrooms.

Again he tryed 50mg but this time the material ignited on the foil and he coulod not get a hit.

Poor smoking technique maby.

He took the remaining material and attempted to dissolve it in naptha, it would not dissolve easy so he tryed heating the naptha to 140c and stirred the naptha with a glass rod a black tar stuck to the rod and solidifyed.
The naptha took on a dark brown colour and a small pool of amber oil collected at the bottom of the container (he assumes this was the jungle alkaloids) he got annoyed in the end and the solvent smelt as the material had so he dumped the whole lot in a jar and chucked it in the freezer.

No crystals formed but swim thinks this may be due to the fact he probabally used a exess of naptha.

The remaining 500ml xylene was pulled from the basic solution and left to evap, its still in the evap dish and all the .xylene has gone, it is amber in colour and smells/lookes the same as the last lot.

He has not scrapped it up yet and is worried he has gone wrong somwhere ?

He added 400ml xylene to each of the conainers of basic solution and is leaving it for a few days before pulling for a FASA precip.

He said he could possibly get some picture in a few days but can anyone help meantime ?

 

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#2 Posted : 7/1/2010 1:14:44 AM

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The FASA precipitates are in salt form and generally not smokeable. At least this is how I understand your post, where no mention of the freebasing was made.

Tell SWIY to freebase the fumarate alkaloids then smoke them.


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robert whitfield
#3 Posted : 7/1/2010 1:45:57 AM
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STB xylene pull was evaporated to leave "jungle spice" full spectrum alkaloids in freebase form, swims concern was the creasote odour, the consitency and appearence of the freebase alkaloids was strange to him, but then wtf dose swim know he's never done this before.

The FASA precip swim speaks of is a sepsrate experiment to to the crude STB jungle spice attempt, perhaps swim should have made this clearer on his original post.

 
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#4 Posted : 7/1/2010 6:32:05 AM

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isn't 500ml of xylene for 50g of mimosa like an insanely high amount of xylene?
 
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#5 Posted : 7/1/2010 10:03:33 AM

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yes 500ml xylene is an insane amount for 50g, and evapping all for so little dmt is a near ecological disaster Razz

robert, pulling mimosa with xylene will yield you a weird waxy/sticky/dark-coloured substance indeed, that is normal. I would say your biggest concern is solvent remains trapped inside that goo, so maybe better redissolve it in ethanol/IPA/acetone (non-denatured, pure stuff....) and evap again, to help getting rid of xylene traces.

Next time try to get some limonene instead, and/or salt out your spice with vinegar/FASA/FASW/FASI and then freebase that, and you will be able to reuse the solvent without the need to evaporate. In this thread you can see how to freebase the fumarates to get pure freebase dmt.

Also, forget tin foil smoking, get a vaporgenie or smoke it sandwhiched between leaves in a bong.


 
 
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