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#1 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:00:44 PM

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Hi everyone!

I want to make a cup of caapi only tea today and was wondering if I could make it in the same way that you make normal tea. I was thinking of using 5 grams and just letting it soak in hot water for like 20 minutes or so with lemon juice. Will this effectively work?.. And do I need to be on a strict diet in order to take this tea?
 

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#2 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:03:41 PM

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I never add acid as it ruins the taste and isn't necassary.

What do you want to acheive with this tea? 5 grams for 20 minutes would just give me a nice, tasty herbal tea with hardly any noticable effect. For a good caapi brew I give 50g's 8+ hours.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:06:26 PM

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I would brew 15g 2x for 3 hours.

save the leaves, dry them out, and add em to changa just in case.
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#4 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:10:37 PM

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Like Gir said, you'd need to boil much longer. As far as dietary restrictions, you'd probably be okay. I have heard, however, that having pork in the system at the time of ingestion can be really difficult for some people (nausea, sickness). I don't have any experience with it myself, but just so you know.
 
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#5 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:12:51 PM

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I am trying to make a tea to act as an anti depressant.

One thing I am wondering is can the water be too hot and destroy the alkaloids?..
I haven't been on the greatest diet at the moment and don't know if diet plays into low doses or not either.
 
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#6 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:17:21 PM

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Cloud wrote:
I am trying to make a tea to act as an anti depressant.

One thing I am wondering is can the water be too hot and destroy the alkaloids?..
I haven't been on the greatest diet at the moment and don't know if diet plays into low doses or not either.



Here's a thread about the pork issue: http://forums.ayahuasca....20968&highlight=pork
The purpose of the dieta is to make you more sensitive so you can go deeper. Ayahuasca is reported as being great for depression. I recall someone on another forum saying that he would take 15g caapi and 1g admixture (a really light dose), at least once a week, and his depression was cured over time. Higher doses would do it as well, so it's up to you how you want to address it.

The heat won't destroy the actives.
 
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I will usually simmer/boil 10-12g of my white caapi for 2 hours with enough water to just cover the caapi. (May add additional water if needed)

Then just run it through a coffee filter into a mug and enjoy!

For me 10-12g caapi is enough for its said antidepressant effects..always gives me an amazing feeling Smile
 
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#8 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:18:36 PM

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Eating a few cheese burgers beforehand will sort of defeat the object. The main complication with drinking aya is any interaction with other meds/drugs.

But one should try their best to eat healthy in the coming days.

Ive read reports of people getting effects from 20 gr vine. If you hace more vine available, brew more(3x3hr), and sip on a few grams worth. Ive never drank 5gr worth so I cant comment on what effect that will have.
 
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#9 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:26:47 PM

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Maybe I will just make a bigger brew and just store the extra liquid in the freezer.

So I have to boil it 3x, strain, and then reduce the liquid?
 
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Hope this helps
ms_manic_minxx wrote:
*Due to profound cook times, I like to prepare enough for several journeys at once.
*Energy is everything. Do not abandon the brew while cooking to do something else. Energy in = energy out.
*Some freeze materials overnight before cooking, and say this increases potency, for the sake of breaking down cell walls to release actives.

*Setting up: Smudge the kitchen, speak intentions, give thanks. Open a dialogue with the spirit of Ayahuasca, whatever is in the heart. Stay focused on why one has decided to spend 12+ hours at the stove. Pay attention to all the little details: swirls of steam, crackles and hisses from the pot, the smell of the vine. What is seen in the pot? (5 hours later) NOW what is seen in the pot?

*Always cook with stainless steel. Put materials in an appropriate pots. (I like to cook my admixtures separately; drinking them separately, vine first, light ~20 minutes later, seems most efficient.)
*Cover materials with acidified water: pH of 4 is rumored to be acceptable. I prefer 2.5~3.
*How to acidify: NEVER USE LEMON!! It tastes HORRENDOUS!! Some use phosphoric acid, or Vitamin C crystals (I have no recipe/method for these). I worked with vinegar for a long time; white distilled vinegar leaves the least amount of taste (ACV tastes far worse). One generous tablespoon of vinegar per liter of water is plenty acidic. Smile I have found using less vinegar than this results in weaker brews.
*Type of water: distilled or reverse osmosis works best. This water is already slightly acidic, and there are no minerals (or disgusting tap additives) that will concentrate when the brew is reduced.
*I have recently started using a water filter that uses electrolysis to clean the water and digitally adjust pH (KYK/KanGen/Jupiter/etc.). It works just as well as vinegar, but tastes sooo much better. :O
*It is impossible to say how much water is necessary for a brew. Bring the water to a boil, and then reduce heat to keep the water just above the threshold of boiling. Diameter of pots used will definitely effect rate of evaporation. As materials are exposed, add enough water just to keep them covered. Boil strategically; when nearing the end of each wash, obviously, let the water cook down a little further than usual.
*Washes: Do three boils of three hours. If work keeps a person from doing one long cook, this is a convenient way to "break up" the cooking.
*After the initial three hours of boiling, carefully pour off all the brewed water into a new pot. Cover the new pot with an old cotton TEA-shirt to serve as a filter (before pouring into it, of course Razz ).
*Cover cooked materials with fresh acidified water, and cook again for three hours. Filter into a separate pot.
*Do this one more time, cooking for a total of nine hours. IMHE, cooking for less than nine negatively impacts brew potency. Cooking beyond 12 makes brew slightly more tannic, but does not increase potency noticably.
*Finally, combine all three filtered washes, and reduce.
*Reduction requires UTMOST and CONSTANT attention. It takes next to nothing for pots to boil over and all 9 hours to spill across the stove, and dry instantly, only in the pattern of thousands of eyeballs to mock the brewer's carelessness.
*Ideally, one will eventually combine pots, and switch to using smaller pots, gradually reducing the heat, until only a few ounces are left. The taste is the taste of death; the less material there is to drink, probably, the better.
*Also, the further one reduces, the less likely mold or fermentation is to occur.
*Store in sterilized glass jars. Reduced brew can be stored for several months in the fridge, and be frozen indefinitely.
*Pots and pans may look dirty as hell after the reductions phase; this is nothing a bit of organic dish soap and steel wool can't handle. Smile
 
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#11 Posted : 5/18/2010 8:41:06 PM

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Thanks for the help everyone!
 
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#12 Posted : 5/19/2010 12:51:18 AM
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Cloud, check out this thread for microdosing experiments. Icecubes were made. https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=4657
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#13 Posted : 5/19/2010 7:20:36 AM

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I also have a 50/1 extract. Maybe I will try this..

I desperately need healing.
 
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#14 Posted : 5/19/2010 11:13:34 AM
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If you read that thread, you'll see that while one member says he's told it benefited him, I'm personally not confident that microdosing is an effective antidepressant.

If you are desperate, I'd recommend finding a professional psychologist if you can afford one or can get one free. I say buy "Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy" by David Burns MD to tide you over. If you haven't had it before, a medium dose of ayawaska with DMT admixture might be beneficial, depending on your problems, but other members can advise on that better than I. If you already take aya or DMT, I doubt taking more will help and maybe it's time to be sober for a while. Check out the healing section for more tips, start a personal thread if you need to. Smile
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