Chen Cho Dorge
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SWIM has been thinking that smoked harmalas or smoked 10x caapi extract might very well be a very wonderful experience. Any one try this? Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 62 Joined: 08-Apr-2010 Last visit: 19-May-2010 Location: i'll put the moon
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I watched a Terence McKenna lecture once, and he said the crushed peganum harmala seeds + mushrooms produces what he called Vegetable Television.
I can't remember the lecture's title, so I can't give a reference to it online, but he said Vegetable Television was seeing a streaming variety of patterns, without being overwhelmed by it.
When I did acid for the first time, when I was about 16, I would see stuff morphing into other stuff, and I was completely overwhelmed cause I couldn't make it stop.
So if harmala lets me see that again, but this time with interest in it, then I'm down for that.
I also can't remember if he said to smoke the seeds 30 minutes prior to mushroom ingestion, or 30 minutes after mushroom ingestion.
So, not much help here, other than McKenna vouching for it, which I'm down for that.
I also believe I've heard there can be difficult, or even detrimental effects to the combination.
If you find out any other info, I'd like to hear about it. I need some more research/confirmation before I try it as well.
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I tried smoking regular caapi leaf at the peak of a mushroom session and I didn't notice any increase in intensity, but the peak visuals seemed to linger longer than usual.
I've been smoking x15 caapi vine on leaf with bufotenine and the results are pretty damn good, so I think the same mix with mushrooms could be quite interesting.
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Posts: 62 Joined: 08-Apr-2010 Last visit: 19-May-2010 Location: i'll put the moon
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soulfood wrote:I tried smoking regular caapi leaf at the peak of a mushroom session and I didn't notice any increase in intensity, but the peak visuals seemed to linger longer than usual.
I've been smoking x15 caapi vine on leaf with bufotenine and the results are pretty damn good, so I think the same mix with mushrooms could be quite interesting. sounds like a good confirmation, thanks for that. your whale avatar is awesome as well.
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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SWIM thinks, this will work very well. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 322 Joined: 05-Jul-2009 Last visit: 14-Jul-2024
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I wonder with the reported strength of Freebase Harmalas whether burning 100mg on an incense coal would brighten up ones room. As opposed to smoking the seeds, one could just hover over the burning coal and waft in the smoke.
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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not a bad idea... you would be getting the coal fumes too though... thats interesting though... syrian rue was used in the middle east as a "smudge" if you will for removing, witchcraft, the evil eye and all that jazz. SWIMS goign to make another post about that in the harmala section... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 12340 Joined: 12-Nov-2008 Last visit: 02-Apr-2023 Location: pacific
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oh my god..do it do it do it.. i cant stop now..ever 30 minutes for the last 3 hours i keep smoking more caapi..these mushrooms are amazing.. Long live the unwoke.
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Excellent avatar jamie!
My friends going to try this this weekend with caapi bark, per Mckenna's instructions.I'll ask him how it goes. The lecture is language about the unspeakable 2/6 on youtube anyones interested. Also in True Hallucinations.
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Posts: 62 Joined: 06-Dec-2011 Last visit: 10-Mar-2019 Location: The Synapses
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whiskey5 wrote:I watched a Terence McKenna lecture once, and he said the crushed peganum harmala seeds + mushrooms produces what he called Vegetable Television.
I can't remember the lecture's title, so I can't give a reference to it online, but he said Vegetable Television was seeing a streaming variety of patterns, without being overwhelmed by it.
When I did acid for the first time, when I was about 16, I would see stuff morphing into other stuff, and I was completely overwhelmed cause I couldn't make it stop.
So if harmala lets me see that again, but this time with interest in it, then I'm down for that.
I also can't remember if he said to smoke the seeds 30 minutes prior to mushroom ingestion, or 30 minutes after mushroom ingestion.
So, not much help here, other than McKenna vouching for it, which I'm down for that.
I also believe I've heard there can be difficult, or even detrimental effects to the combination.
If you find out any other info, I'd like to hear about it. I need some more research/confirmation before I try it as well. Terence Mckenna: The World and it's Double. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPX7QcIUoVgLiving beside the mystery.
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Posts: 1310 Joined: 27-Sep-2012 Last visit: 01-Feb-2022 Location: Lost in space
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Quote:I can't remember the lecture's title, so I can't give a reference to it online, but he said Vegetable Television was seeing a streaming variety of patterns, without being overwhelmed by it. This is exactly what I've seen before. It was like in the shape of a movie strip with images rushing past, but they were images of people I did not recognize. It looked like a waterfall of images and colors and patterns flowing towards me. I can't remember if that was the time I did caapi leaf only, or kicked the trip of with some caapi leaf changa, but it was a good one. Definitely worth a go! Be an adult only when necessary.
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