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#1 Posted : 4/6/2010 2:56:23 AM
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My friend recently extracted two grams of spice and gave me half of it. For the first week or so I did it a bunch. Now about two weeks later I still have some and haven't felt the urge to blast. I don't want to ruin the "magic" of it you could say as I have with cannabis. Bud is just a part of my daily routine now and seems mundane at points and I really don't want something as powerful and spiritual as the spice to get this way since my friend has another kilo and some d-limo on the way.



So anyways how often do you guys go to hyperspace? And another thing... Music?





 

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#2 Posted : 4/6/2010 3:06:03 AM

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My friend journeys when she feels called. Sometimes often, sometimes not. Since finding the Nexus, not longer than 2 weeks though, and that due to a sickness.
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#3 Posted : 4/6/2010 8:04:55 AM

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Someone who isn't my dog managed to get some spice a week ago. He always feels compelled to explore, but they only do so when the time "feels right". Take a heavy dose, then try to keep yourself active with things in your life. Don't develop a need for it, but have a relationship with it. That's his outlook on the spice. He likes to wait a few days to let each experience sink in. Feel the flow of life, passion for existence.
Sir Terrence McKenna: "and what is real: is you, and your friends, and your associations, your highs, your orgasms your hopes your plans your fears... and were told. no. we're unimportant, we're peripherial. get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that. and then your a player, (but) you dont even want to play that game? (well) you want to re-claim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers: who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash thats being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world. ¿where is that at?"

"But now technology throws a curve. and the curve is that we live so long, that we figure out what a scam this is. we figure out that what your supposed to work for isn't worth having, we figure out that our politicians are buffoons, we figure out that professional scientists are reputation building gravitating weasels. we discover that all organizations are corrupted by ambition. we figure. it. out... and as you come to see that you are alienated you realise that culture is not your friend."
 
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#4 Posted : 4/6/2010 8:13:05 AM

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At first you have a honeymoon period which can and often does mean blasting off every day, sometimes several times a day. For most people this then falls away, usually following a poo-poo-your-pants terrifying experience that makes you consider your intentions.

Don't worry, I don't think the magic can be destroyed, if anything it only gets weirder and weirder and out of repect for the weirdness of it, because it can turn in any direction at any time, you begin to listen for its call.

I go in 2-3 times a month at the moment, sometimes less.
Peace in mind, Love in heart
 
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#5 Posted : 4/6/2010 8:16:01 AM

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currently..ayahuasca once a week with a dose of vilca at the peak..vilca changa one night by itself, and one night of jimjam changa..

so thats 3 times a week at the moment..with a day in between in class..schools in sessionVery happy

Then there are the mushrooms..not as often though, but thats about to changa i can feel it.
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#6 Posted : 4/6/2010 10:42:38 AM

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It depends on the period, but in general it's every few months for me.

Peace

ps: for music check the forum, there are a lot of threads concerning the use of music during journeys aswell as good suggestions.


"It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
 
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#7 Posted : 5/11/2016 2:29:28 PM

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Depends on the frequency of the spirits calling and the amount of distraction / busyness in daily life and work obligations...ideally twice a month...in practice around once a month....peace...
 
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#8 Posted : 5/11/2016 8:45:04 PM

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I typically do a changa session every whole moon but if I feel called to do so more I will. It's more of a feeling thing for me but I always explore during the full moon. It's like a monthly re-set and re-alignment.

Happy journeys!

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तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय ।
मृत्योर्मा अमृतं गमय ।
 
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#9 Posted : 5/11/2016 9:30:30 PM

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Twice a month Smile
music- the song I played on my first dmt trip https://youtu.be/G7nyMlCg5MA

Good songs for ayahuasca.
(1. https://youtu.be/VNK9YPFW4SU - You will feel this song during a Journey, trust me.)
2. https://youtu.be/19nm5_nAwQg
3. https://soundcloud.com/a...music/calling-all-angels
 
MasaoMakoto
#10 Posted : 5/12/2016 2:34:09 PM

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I do really want to keep its magic and keep the respect towards it. So I try not to abuse it.
I do not have certain intervals, always go when I feel to, and circumstances (mood etc.)are the best. Somehow it turns out there are months in between, usually. But once I go for a session I do multiple trips one after the other. I feel like weeks after a session there are still messages to understand and to interpret. I had my best trips on music like didgeridoo, ambient, or ayahuasca icaros work the best for me. It intensifies visuals.

One of my best breakthroughs I had on this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEWoK-C0Ses at 29:00 there is a very trippy part kicks in Very happy

At my next journey these ones will be tried out and would recommend them to many of you too Very happy :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ_Xw7vnjgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGwvmtj8HI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNoFkWIhcxo

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#11 Posted : 5/12/2016 3:54:59 PM
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I have not smoked DMT for around four years, during the period when I last smoked I had a good deal DMT, most of which I ended up giving away.
my first experiance was beyond intense, and as a result it took me several months before I had the courage to try again. When I did begin to explore again I experimented with micro-doses and low doses just to gain a feel for the full range of possible effects the compound is capable of producing, I eventually worked my way up until I reached a 2nd experiance which was again, beyond intense, at this point I stoped my exploration.

I only smoked a total of maybe 16 times, though I wasn't keeping an exact count, the majority of these ventures were micro-dose or extremely low dose, and were in an attempt to gain a feel for the compound and it's potentials, as far as experiences where I thought the full spectrum of potential affects were encountered, I only had 3 of these, 2 of which were in the "beyond intense" catagory.

I began experimenting with yagé and yagé analogues shortly after I first encountered DMT (well, I don't know about shortly, as my first experiance with DMT prevented me from wanting to try it again for several months, but a while after my first encounter) I've found yagé or ayahuasca which ever you choose to call it to be much more gentle,( aside from the physical distress and purging ) it seemed to slowly bring you up into the DMT experience, where it then holds you for a time, before proceeding to gently guide you back to baseline, I guess saying "it's fairly smooth transitioning through the experiance" would better describe what I'm trying to say.
I still will only use yagé on fairly rare occasions, once every few months is heavy use in my eyes. It's hard to designate an exact time frame, but after a good deal of time has passed you begin to forget, you forget exactly how the psychedelic experiance felt, you begin to forget some of the lessons you had learned, it's as if you need to be "'re-freshed" in psychedelia.
I generally obtain a long lasting sense of stability and understanding after a good psychedelic venture, I obtain a renewed outlook on existance which generally results in a lasting positive mindstate, the psychedelic experiance tends to re-organize my psychology, and I am able to abandon a good deal of the negative psychological processes I may have fallen into.
Any way without going into depth on any of this, I can still say that even my yagé use is quite rare, and often only occurs if I feel it would benefit me psychologically or spiritually.

For as much as I research entheogens, and discuss entheogens, it's actually fairly rare that I will actually use them.

I don't smoke DMT anymore, this is not to say that I won't ever smoke again, it's just saying I have no plans or direct intention to smoke DMT anytime soon.

As for yagé and yagé analogues, once every several months is considered heavy use for me.

As for mescaline, LSD, psilocybe fungi, RCs, and so on, I can't say I ever consistently use these compounds, they are more like a rare and novel treat that weave into my life from time to time. It's generally never a planed thing, its just when the time is right and the compound is there it just seems to happen, but I can assure you it doesn't happen all that often.

There was a phase when I was younger where I probably over-used many psychedelic substances, and at least for me it seems that when you begin to take them more often than you should, the benefit you gain from them can definantly decrease, it's as if the compounds want to say "ok buddy give it a break, and if you don't I'll stop providing you with beneficial experiences"

This is just my take on it though.

This is an interesting topic though, and I've always been curious as to the frequency of use regarding these compounds.

I've always agreed with mckenna when he said "when you do these things right you do not need to do them often" however I also agree with the Buddha when he said "1000 people, 1000 paths", understanding that everybody is unique and that everybody is going to have their own path.

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#12 Posted : 5/12/2016 4:24:55 PM

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depends on the mood.
sometimes we binge.

part of it depends on time / timing

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#13 Posted : 5/12/2016 4:28:45 PM

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In the beginning I used to go in regularly like once a week. Eventually tapering off . doing it too often increases the risk of it getting super weird and not necessarily in a good way. Breaks are encouraged. I eventually came to the realization that it's too good to risk on a bad set or setting so it's only under optimum conditions that I do it now. A nice sunny day with with plenty of time and no place to be is perfect.

I stopped using music years ago . I know a lot of people are into using music but for me it cheapens the experience. The thing itself is so pure and amazing layering on a cheap human contrivance doesn't work for me . It's funny because I'm a musician too.
I encourage people to lose the music and face this thing head on. In my opinion it's that good all by itself .
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
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#14 Posted : 5/13/2016 4:24:17 PM

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Weekly, but with some irregularity.

I get called to lessons, but the ego often thinks its a bad idea. So it is usually that after a week the call is stronger than the "fear". The fear is odd, not like any rational fear, more like my ego is a cat I am trying to put in a bath - sometimes it is resigned other times it is clawing and scratching to get away.

It is early days for me with this sort of medicine, and the lessons are still developing - I have felt sometimes that I would not need to go for a few weeks, but then the call comes through with the Teachers saying it is time for the next lesson.
I speak as if it were fact, but indeed this is just the insane ramblings of my ego - but my inner self seems to be nodding.
 
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#15 Posted : 5/14/2016 1:02:43 AM

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During my honeymoon period I did it up to 4 times per day for a few weeks. Now I do 2-3 times a week, usually tuesday, thursday, saturday. Any more often than that and it stops working. If you wait longer between experiences (week or more) the trips usually get more intense.
 
 
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