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arimane
#1 Posted : 2/15/2010 2:05:47 PM

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Maybe is stupid opening a new topic just for this, but SWIM was thinking about using trichloroethylene to pull spice, since he can found very cheap in large quantities.

SWIM has done an extraction with it, an STB, but the MHRB was already exaust so SWIM doesn't know if it worked bad for that.

Thanks for eventually answering =)


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#2 Posted : 2/15/2010 2:51:19 PM

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yes, it would work very well, in fact.
it's comparable to chloroform, which is arguably the best solvent for pulling DMT.
trichloroethylene may even work [marginally] better
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#3 Posted : 2/15/2010 2:54:29 PM

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Just make sure you don't inhale any of the vapors from the solvent, and make sure absolutely every part of the solvent is gone before you ingest your spice. Also, never ever dump trichloroethylene in the nature, in your toilet, sink or anywhere else. This is a very toxic compound, actually I feel you shouldn't mess around with chlorine at all.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/15/2010 3:01:03 PM

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bah
obviously don't deliberately inhale it, nor pour it down the sink (mother earth will weep)


but it's certainly not carbon tetrachloride, it's not that hazardous

for all practical purposes, SWIM only uses methylene chloride. hexane to re-xtallize


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#5 Posted : 2/15/2010 3:11:01 PM

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you know what, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say
if you don't know how to handle chems that are potentially hazardous, don't use them.
stick to relatively non-toxic alternatives such as naptha or limonene.
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#6 Posted : 2/15/2010 8:31:22 PM

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benzyme wrote:
for all practical purposes, SWIM only uses methylene chloride. hexane to re-xtallize


Methylene chloride (AKA., dichloromethane, or DCM) is a fantastic solvent. Anyone who feels comfortable working with solvents that are a little toxic should have this one. It has so many benefits. It can extract more DMT, bufotenine, and mescaline than nearly all other solvents. It evaporates really fast, it's not flammable, it boils at a very low temperature, and it can be re-distilled over and over really fast without collecting too much junk because of the low boiling point. It's the chemist's dream solvent. Anyone who's not using it is really missing out.

SWIM has not tried trichloroethylene, but the higher boiling point makes it less useful in my opinion.
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#7 Posted : 2/16/2010 1:56:02 PM

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Uh, really?
so, athough is not an IPA, it can work for bufotenine. That's a great news, since I have to extract in this days. Do you think trichloro is as good as dichloro, for pulling (although it isn't so volatile)?

I think I can get some dichloroethylene, I'll give a look.


Thanks a lot guys =)
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#8 Posted : 2/16/2010 3:31:54 PM

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I love evapping DCM in luke warm water Smile It's just a novelty for myself to see something boil at such a low temperature... from a distance and outdoors of course Smile
 
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#9 Posted : 3/4/2010 1:27:20 PM

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Hi guys.
I've use TCE for a Spice extraction, now is in freeze precipitation, but looks like the crystals aren't coming down. I mean, I can see them, but they don't get to the bottom, just keep floating in the TCE.
That may be a problem for decanting.
Isn't it happening to you too?
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#10 Posted : 12/27/2010 10:43:13 AM

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I know but someone might be asking this in the future.

If TCE is similar to DCM (most probably is) you can't freeze precipitate DMT out of it. You need to evap the TCE/DCM.
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