Bad. Joe Rogan is promulgating bad science. He makes strong claims with no evidence which only serves to promote misinformation about the nature of DMT.

Blessings
~ND

I'd prefer it if he didn't speak about DMT. I'm not a fan of his.

I'm a UFC fan so I've been listening to him for years.
At first I did like him but some years later and he grates on me, some times I'd prefer it if he would shut up.
He has become quite embarrassing at times.

Rogan is awesome. And although he does say a few things that aren't entirely correct I don't fualt him for it as plenty people sya the same thing. And mostly it stems from strassmans book and theory.

He probably read it or heard points from it and so its what he thinks. But he's right when he says they've found in pineal gland of mice. And like others have said he's quick to admit hea wrong.

He's a humble dude doing a lot of great work to help out in all different areas of life. I don't fault him he's a busy guy. The people that want to know the truth down to a scientific level will seek it and find it. And dmt is rather hard to obtain so I think the paranoia of it being put in the spotlight and a total crackdown happening is in called for.

Salvia could be easily purchased and smoked. Dmt needs to be extracted and most people don't ha e the time or care enough to figure it all out. It is growing In popularity but I say so what it's a good thing. Most of use here have used it already and should be thankful for the experience we've had.

It's already a schedule 1 substance in America. I don't see things getting much worse then they are.

I love dmt too. But most don't have the curiosity called for to learn how to extract and obtain what they need. It will always be a certain niche of people that use this. And most will probably use it a few times and never mess with it again.

Joe.is awesome. He's done a lot of good for the psychedelic community in general.

I like Joe Rogan for what he is - an entertainer.
His misinformation is not his own and was/is popular belief with many "scientists", so I can not knock him for getting info out there. Is everyone 100% on par with what is proper and good-no way! Opinions and theorist ideals change all the time.

His podcasts are a great entertaining background noise for me and his topics do inspire thought/disgust/emotion in this wacky world.

Amen.

Though, tbh, I've never listened to a podcast or video, but when a full third of my conversations around the psychedelic are spent refuting misinformation, and often hearing 'Joe Rogan said', as much as ' they now know', i have to agree with that sentiment.

My opinion of Rogan is that of deep disdain which I reserve for all promoters of irresponsible psychedelic exploration. I think that he should stick to less scary things and that he should stay the hell away from talking about psychedelics. The last thing we need is more showboating fanatics advertising psychedelics as magical miracle drugs-this is bordering on malice and is partially responsible for the whirlind of deplorable case-reports which run rampant through media outlets accross the nation and give psychedelics a bad name. Anyone who openly promotes these things as magical miracles that everyone should do is a bane to the existence of those who do meaningful work with these substances.

If a showboating salesman got on TV and started talking about how great shooting up heroin was and encouraging others to try it so that they too could feel the rush of a lifetime, the public would boo them for corrupting youth and the public conscience. Rogan is no different; he and everyone else blindly telling others to crack open their heads with these substances are committing a crime against humanity. They are doing a great disservice to the human race and the sanctity of these substances by promoting them as panaceas. False advertising is illegal and immoral for a reason, after all...

Early on Joe talked about DMT on a radio show when a caller asked about it, he spouted some speculative theories about it, it blew up and got shared a billion times on the internet and the misinformation was perpetuated.

In the meantime he's had a lot of really interesting people on his podcast, I know he's a learned a lot because I have learned a lot watching his interviews. I don't think a person should be judged solely on a sound byte and that we all have the potential to learn, share and expand

if you haven't kept up on what he's been up to here are several episodes that are nexus relevant:









There is tons moar but you get the idea.

How easily hate can come about towards those we have never met based on a few idea's or opinions - from beings who claim to be enlightened- That is the scary part here!

Definitely worth a listen
And also the Bruce Damer interview

I don't think heroin and DMT should be compared even hypothetically.


As i said earlier, i only listened to one twenty minute or so clip. He said something along the lines of - wouldn't it be nice if there were centers where people could take classes and learn about substances, educate themselves then have them administered by a trained professional. Perhaps he educated himself and changed the tune you're speaking of, i don't know, but it was no where in the same ball park and someone telling others to shoot up heroin on television.



also, thanks for sharing those dreamer, i'm definitely going to check them out.

That's a bit judgmental. I don't think anyone here is saying that Rogan is a 'bad person,' or that we should 'hate' him, just that, on the whole, things would be better if he didn't speak on DMT. He's got a lot of good stuff on Sensory Deprivation tanks thats really interesting, and he's had a lot of experience, so his material is insightful and well-informed.

This is untrue of his DMT stuff.

I dislike this idea that more people knowing about DMT can only be a good thing. I would much rather have FEWER people who knew about DMT, if a greater percentage of that group were scientifically literate and informed about the substance.

Let's shoot for quality, not quantity here, people.

Blessings
~ND

Then what serious misinformation about DMT is he spreading? Apart from a 2 minute soundbyte on a radio show several years ago where he mentioned pineal DMT, about which he later corrected himself on? (and which now has more evidence )

the idea that he should be executed on the spot seems quite hateful to me.
seems you have learnt alot from using psychedelics Godsmacker, bravo

for what its worth i think JR seems like a nice bloke, runs a good informative podcast and has what i see as a good outlook on how life should be lived.

I like him. His enthusiasm is infectious, and he seems more willing to learn and change than most. He's a positive light in my book.

Plus, he turned me on to Duncan Trussell, another gem, and has great guests all the time.

Personally I like Joe Rogan, I remember when he used to host the show Fear Factor. I have read that the reason he was made the host was because he was not afraid to do any of the tasks on that show. I have respect for that kind of fearlessness. I also have a lot of respect for people that are not afraid to speak their mind. Some of his opinions regarding DMT I find interesting and don't totally agree with, but from what I have read from many posts here on the Nexus there are many wild ideas and excitement on the nature of DMT that I don't agree with either. I think the mans heart is in the right place. He talks about many of the problems with the world and wants to play an active role in changing it. He seems to respect the power of mind altering substances, and has a brotherly vibe to him. In short he seems to be a man who cares. I've heard several of his radio rants and while some seem over the top, I understand that they should be, he is a radio personality. If he didn't have that kind of dramatic flair his voice would not be heard, likewise there is a demographic that gravitate towards him. Though I can see why people don't like his personality, but I find judgements on the tone of personality to be a waste, there is a message he's sending, and I think it's a caring one. Though that's just the vibe I get.

Also since Joe Rogan is so into DMT,
he may very well be a member of the Nexus .

Hi Joe! Hmu next time you're in Asheville!

(this is totally in jest...not an attampt at a real world meetup; I knows the rulz )

I think Joe is a great guy, and like you that's where I learned about Spice... but "more logical than McKenna"...I have to disagree, McKenna was a genius.

McKenna was a fruit loop