SWIM knows this now with previous experiences, she's waited up to an hour after the initial dose and still experienced nothing although it seems that this was due to too low a dose of rue extract.

It's such a shame for her that she can't seem to get hold of THH in Europe!

Good luck with SWIY virola resin/THH experiment

I'd recommend THH and pure DMT taken at the same time. That’s SWIM’s personal favorite ayahuasca-like experience.

200 mg of THH with 20 mg of DMT is enough for SWIM to have very decent visions. It's an amazing experience. The THH adds clarity to the experience. You feel supercharged, as if you have endless amounts of energy. Your mind is so clear and lucid. Thoughts come with amazing ease and clarity. It's fantastic.

If you have DMT in freebase form, it will not work well at all. The potency of it will drop. No one knows exactly why. For some reason it needs to be converted into a salt before using it orally for best results. To make a salt out of it you can use lemonade, orange juice, grade juice, pineapple juice, Tang, Coke, Pepsi, Seven-up, or even Kool Aid, anything that’s acidic will work. Coke is an excellent choice because it contains phosphoric acid and DMT will form DMT phosphate when mixed into it. DMT phosphate is one of the most potent forms of oral DMT. Again, no one knows exactly why, but certain forms of oral DMT work better than others.

Phosphoric acid is psychoactive? That would explain it being added to coca cola, if it's true.

Coca-cola can be used, but you'd end up with a lot of junk from the coca-cola in your final product. The better way is to just add your extracted mescaline or DMT to your coca-cola when you're going to use it.

DMT fumarate, DMT acetate, DMT citrate, mescaline acetate, etc., will all form their phosphate salts if added to coca-cola provided there's enough phosphoric acid present in the soda because phosphoric acid is a stronger acid than fumaric acid, acetic acid, and citric acid. That will not happen with DMT HCl or mescaline HCl because hydrochloric acid is a stronger acid than phosphoric acid is.

The same thing works with DMT acetate. You can easily form DMT fumarate in solution by added fumaric acid to a solution of DMT acetate. This releases acetic acid (vinegar) and the smell of vinegar becomes evident proving the reaction happens IN SOLUTION.

You can give all the theories about why this doesn’t happen, but in reality it does. You cannot smell vinegar in a solution of DMT acetate, but as soon as you add the fumaric acid, you can. That proves the acetic acid is released from the DMT acetate by the fumaric acid, and DMT fumarate is forming IN SOLUTION.

Release of vinegary smell does not prove at all that dmt acetate converted to dmt-fumarate by addition of fumaric acid (or, say dmt-chloride by addition of hydrochloric acid. It just means that unionized acetic acid formed more rigorously and got released. This is no proof. One will need stronger evidence.

Of course that's proof. And here's more proof. The fumaric acid doesn't precipitate out of the water when it should because it's very poorly soluble in water. That means it reacted with the DMT. Do the test and see for yourself. Use just enough water to dissolve the DMT acetate and then add just enough fumaric acid to salt it. If it didn't happen exactly the way I say it happens, then the fumaric acid will precipitate out of the water and it does NOT. That is proof.

No, that's actually a misconception when it comes to RIMAs. Harmala alkaloids are RIMAs. RIMAs are Reversible Inhibitors of MAO sub-type A. This means they only bind to MAO in the stomach for a very short period of time and are quickly released into the brain. As soon as you start feeling the effects of the harmalas, that means the MAOI effect in the stomach is quickly fading as they pass out of the stomach into the brain and are no longer working as MAOI compounds in the stomach. Keep in mind that harmala alkaloids are very short acting MAOI compounds and are easily released from MAO in the stomach. DMT is destroyed in the stomach, not the brain. So having harmala alkaloids in the brain doesn’t protect the DMT from destruction in the stomach. The DMT should be surrounded by harmala alkaloids while in the stomach otherwise it gets destroyed. So you’ll get better MAOI effects if you take the harmala alkaloids at the same time as the DMT. That’s why shamans do it that way. They’ve been doing it like that for centuries because it works better that way. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Do it exactly the way the shamans do it and you won’t need as much MAOI or as much DMT for very strong effects. One reason SWIM gets effects from 200 mg of THH and 20 mg of DMT orally is because he takes them at the same time. If the DMT is taken 30 minutes later you need a ton more DMT for it to work. Anyway, that’s how it is for SWIM. He tested this out last week. If he waits 30 minutes before taking the DMT he needs about 200 mg of DMT or he doesn’t even feel it.

Now, maybe it differs for others, but that’s how it is for SWIM.

NOTE: this only applies to RIMAs, and not to non-reversible MAOI compounds which permanently destroy MAO.

what's known about salt in solutions? isn't this a sort of borderline type of phenomenon?
It would make sense to me that if you would have an imbalance between kations and anions, that something would precipitate.
I can imagine that in solution, this would be random.
But wouldn't this also differ with how saturated the water is?

If something has to precipitate, i can imagine that the salt that would be a stronger balance would prevail over the weaker balance.

But i'm no chemist. Just curious.

EDIT: i'm asking this because ions can move around so incredibly fast in water, so my question would be if there could be more interaction between ions in solution then you would expect if you would just see it as a solution instead of individual molecules whirling around.

Can SWIY do the opposite? According to SWIY's theory if one dissolves dmt fumarate in solution then addition of HCl should precipitate out fumaric acid. SWIM will try this when he's got time.
[EDIT: SWIM tried this; he saturated water with dmt fumarate and then he added hydrochloric acid. Nothing precipitated. According to SWIY's theory, dmt-fumarate should have turned to dmt-chloride and fumaric acid should have precipitated out. This argues against what SWIY's claiming].