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About that "unknown" large DMT crystal pic from Erowid: In Trout's notes he names the photographers and says it is from Nick Sand. Is this verified? I surely would believe if anyone ever made such a large crystal, it was Nick, with his purity fetish... ![Big grin](/forum/images/emoticons/biggrin.png) (which surely isn't a bad thing) I claim not that this is the truth. As this is just what got manifested into my mind at the current position in time on this physical plane. So please feel not offended by anything I say.
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Aum_Shanti wrote:About that "unknown" large DMT crystal pic from Erowid: In Trout's notes he names the photographers and says it is from Nick Sand. Is this verified? I surely would believe if anyone ever made such a large crystal, it was Nick, with his purity fetish... ![Big grin](/forum/images/emoticons/biggrin.png) (which surely isn't a bad thing) He was busted with like 5 kilos of DMT, so it could be. I think the geometry of the crystal is just a bit too far off, though. Maybe that picture is from his police report. RIP Nick
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Nick Sand synthesised spice as apposed to extracting. would this make a difference to the crystalline structure? I'm guessing probably. I would wager any money that Mr Sands spice was some of the purest. Legend. I may be a poor man but when I close my eyes im sleeping in the palace of kings
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Reincarnated wrote:Nick Sand synthesised spice as apposed to extracting. would this make a difference to the crystalline structure? I'm guessing probably. I would wager any money that Mr Sands spice was some of the purest. Legend. No, it doesn't. freebase DMT is polymorphic, it has at least two different crystal structures, pure DMT can result in a mixture of the two forms (since form II is metastable) leading to oily goo and also leading to the vast variety of crystallization patterns seen. its a beautiful display of entropy and thermodynamics. This is also the reason why it is difficult to obtain very large monocrystals of freebase DMT (salts not so much). Extremely controlled conditions are required --- the 'ultrapure' dmt crystal on erowid doesn't look like either of the polymorphs. To me, it is unmistakably quartz. I am almost certain it's a fake Expect nothing, Receive everything. "Experiment and extrapolation is the only means the organic chemists (humans) currrently have - in contrast to "God" (and possibly R. B. Woodward). " He alone sees truly who sees the Absolute the same in every creature...seeing the same Absolute everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. - The Bhagavad Gita "The most beautiful thing we can experience, is the mysterious. The source of all true art and science."
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obviously its a fake! its quartz, swim has distilled dmt multiple times over the years. no matter how pure or how one re xs. it can never look like that. low temp vacume distilation, still will never grow like that! no matter how you re x. but is quite easy to get one large piece of clear glass with diamond shape platelets after vac distilation. acacaya attached the following image(s): ![](/forum/themes/DMT-Nexus/icon_file.gif) 8165831588_5577d51948_o.jpg (4,500kb) downloaded 304 time(s).
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Any news on the mono crystal LG? I may be a poor man but when I close my eyes im sleeping in the palace of kings
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Ahh sweet, I always wondered what would happen if you went the rock candy way and hung something in the solvent. Never saw it mentioned until now.
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Reincarnated wrote:Any news on the mono crystal LG? I did it but it was so small I was NOT impressed. :/ I know 2.22g isn't the biggest but it's the best I could do with what I had. I feel it needs to be at least the size of a dime for this to be worthy of such hype. I did however prove That is in fact possible, very easily done too, just takes patience. What you perceive, you conceive.
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Asher7 wrote:Ahh sweet, I always wondered what would happen if you went the rock candy way and hung something in the solvent. Never saw it mentioned until now. It's the way to go in general for sure, in my opinion. Re-edit: I will not be furthering the scaling up of the size of my current 2.22g mono crystal. I have spent enough money and time into it for now, and maybe one day I can create a bigger version, but as of now I will be taking a long due break of crystallizing technique trial and errors..lol ![Razz](/forum/images/emoticons/tongue.png) thanks everyone for the patience! What you perceive, you conceive.
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The mono crystal here weighs very little as it is barely the size of a dime...but boom. It's possible. Just wanted it bigger but that's alright. I'll store it forever ![Razz](/forum/images/emoticons/tongue.png) until it oxidizes at least.. LevitatingGod attached the following image(s): ![](/forum/themes/DMT-Nexus/icon_file.gif) image.jpg (1,445kb) downloaded 196 time(s).What you perceive, you conceive.
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Nice. You're sure it's monocrystalline? Shouldn't it be much clearer for this and have more distinct edges? Just asking out of curiosity...I'm no expert. But then the pic is also a bit fuzzy. Maybe you can manage to get a better one? I claim not that this is the truth. As this is just what got manifested into my mind at the current position in time on this physical plane. So please feel not offended by anything I say.
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How was your new approach different from your previous workflow to succeed more into the direction of mono appearance please?
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Looking good! As said above a better picture would be good but im sure we will see that when it's ready Thanks for your patience and sharing of your project Keep us posted I may be a poor man but when I close my eyes im sleeping in the palace of kings
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Aum_Shanti wrote:Nice. You're sure it's monocrystalline? Shouldn't it be much clearer for this and have more distinct edges? Just asking out of curiosity...I'm no expert. But then the pic is also a bit fuzzy. Maybe you can manage to get a better one? That is correct, you would most definitely see that if you were looking at this in person. I will take a better photo and send it to this platform so I can upload it off of this iPad I'm on. That way, everyone will have a better image to view. I will post it shortly.. What you perceive, you conceive.
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Jees wrote: How was your new approach different from your previous workflow to succeed more into the direction of mono appearance please? Instead of removing the seed in and out and forcing growth, I let one seed evaporate slowly as it was suspended and it grew as one crystal. Then from there, I shave what I want(a square/cube crystal is best) and then re seed into a redissolved dmt saturated naphtha and that allows the new cube-like perfect seedling to format the geometry appropriated with what everyone's requesting of me. What you perceive, you conceive.
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acacaya wrote: obviously its a fake! its quartz, swim has distilled dmt multiple times over the years. no matter how pure or how one re xs. it can never look like that. low temp vacume distilation, still will never grow like that! no matter how you re x. but is quite easy to get one large piece of clear glass with diamond shape platelets after vac distilation. "It can never look like that" ![Razz](/forum/images/emoticons/tongue.png) Doubt is a funny thing. "When somebody tells you it can't be done this doesn't mean it's impossible, it's merely of a reflection of the limitations they've already set in their mind." What you perceive, you conceive.
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LevitatingGod wrote:acacaya wrote: obviously its a fake! its quartz, swim has distilled dmt multiple times over the years. no matter how pure or how one re xs. it can never look like that. low temp vacume distilation, still will never grow like that! no matter how you re x. but is quite easy to get one large piece of clear glass with diamond shape platelets after vac distilation. "It can never look like that" ![Razz](/forum/images/emoticons/tongue.png) Doubt is a funny thing. "When somebody tells you it can't be done this doesn't mean it's impossible, it's merely of a reflection of the limitations they've already set in their mind." come on man, maybe instead of phrasing 'it can't be done' would have been better 'its a silly meaningless question' its asking 'try making salt crystals sugar crystals' or 'try drawing a square circle' it has nothing to do with faith or doubt, you're merely asking nature to follow YOUR own rules. Nature doesn't care about your rules. Salt crystals will be like salt crystals and sugar crystals will be like sugar crystals. Maybe there is a chance that molecules will spontaneously arrange themselves to look like that, its about the same chance that molecules spontaneously arrange to form a human being. So sure. Its possible. Expect nothing, Receive everything. "Experiment and extrapolation is the only means the organic chemists (humans) currrently have - in contrast to "God" (and possibly R. B. Woodward). " He alone sees truly who sees the Absolute the same in every creature...seeing the same Absolute everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. - The Bhagavad Gita "The most beautiful thing we can experience, is the mysterious. The source of all true art and science."
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Mindlusion wrote:LevitatingGod wrote:acacaya wrote: obviously its a fake! its quartz, swim has distilled dmt multiple times over the years. no matter how pure or how one re xs. it can never look like that. low temp vacume distilation, still will never grow like that! no matter how you re x. but is quite easy to get one large piece of clear glass with diamond shape platelets after vac distilation. "It can never look like that" ![Razz](/forum/images/emoticons/tongue.png) Doubt is a funny thing. "When somebody tells you it can't be done this doesn't mean it's impossible, it's merely of a reflection of the limitations they've already set in their mind." come on man, maybe instead of phrasing 'it can't be done' would have been better 'its a silly meaningless question' its asking 'try making salt crystals sugar crystals' or 'try drawing a square circle' it has nothing to do with faith or doubt, you're merely asking nature to follow YOUR own rules. Nature doesn't care about your rules. Salt crystals will be like salt crystals and sugar crystals will be like sugar crystals. Maybe there is a chance that molecules will spontaneously arrange themselves to look like that, its about the same chance that molecules spontaneously arrange to form a human being. So sure. Its possible. It's silly to respond when I've already created a mono crystal proving its possible. Unless however, you are debating with the other person on whether the erowid picture was in fact dmt or Quartz. I believe the picture very well could be dmt, but hey, some say I believe anything is possible ![Pleased](/forum/images/emoticons/happy.png) Thank you for your opinion, though. Peace be with you. What you perceive, you conceive.
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May I present- The Dmt monocrystal: LevitatingGod attached the following image(s): ![](/forum/themes/DMT-Nexus/icon_file.gif) image.jpg (821kb) downloaded 122 time(s).![](/forum/themes/DMT-Nexus/icon_file.gif) image.jpg (1,122kb) downloaded 121 time(s).![](/forum/themes/DMT-Nexus/icon_file.gif) image.jpg (1,023kb) downloaded 122 time(s).![](/forum/themes/DMT-Nexus/icon_file.gif) image.jpg (686kb) downloaded 121 time(s).What you perceive, you conceive.
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LevitatingGod wrote: It's silly to respond when I've already created a mono crystal proving its possible. Thank you for your opinion, though. Peace be with you.
Does it look like quartz? total misrepresentation of dialogue... its a nice crystal, man, its just not quartz Expect nothing, Receive everything. "Experiment and extrapolation is the only means the organic chemists (humans) currrently have - in contrast to "God" (and possibly R. B. Woodward). " He alone sees truly who sees the Absolute the same in every creature...seeing the same Absolute everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. - The Bhagavad Gita "The most beautiful thing we can experience, is the mysterious. The source of all true art and science."
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