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thesoi6
#841 Posted : 12/12/2014 3:25:19 PM

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Hello and good day, I just went out to the mountains here in sinai and found this tree..I hope it is an acacia..

What do you think about?












 

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#842 Posted : 12/13/2014 8:10:29 AM

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Seems to have a similar growth structure to the desert acacia pictures nen has posted before but you could probably narrow it down easily enough by geographical region as there doesnt look like many of them there!
Could do with a close-up of the phyllodes.
Have to say its defensive spikes are superb.
 
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#843 Posted : 12/13/2014 10:11:16 AM

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DreaMTripper wrote:
Seems to have a similar growth structure to the desert acacia pictures nen has posted before but you could probably narrow it down easily enough by geographical region as there doesnt look like many of them there!
Could do with a close-up of the phyllodes.
Have to say its defensive spikes are superb.



I found it in the southern of Sinai, near to Dahab, (south of the st. caterine monastery) where is also the famous burning bush of moses. south sinai is full of this trees...
 
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#844 Posted : 12/18/2014 1:32:04 PM

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werd wrote:


in the part of the world you are in, you probably see the following mimosaceae...there are 4 native acacias around there, and then quite a few introduced (mostly australian) species brought in years ago for reforestation/desert reclaiming.
Acacia tortilis
Acacia saligna
Acacia raddiana
Acacia victorae
Acacia salicina
Faidherbia albida
Leucaena galauca
Leucaena leucocephala
Loranthus acaciae
Vachellia gerrardii
Vachellia farnesiana



which one of those have the most dmt in it?
the tortilis is the one i saw so far till now
 
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#845 Posted : 12/19/2014 7:44:03 AM

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A bit of research would answer that for you asim sure the answer will be on the forum somehwere, let us know when you find out.
 
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#846 Posted : 12/19/2014 8:07:17 AM

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Hi nexians and acacians!

I went for a bit of nature stroll this afternoon and thought I'd be on acacia watch and try and sharpen my viewing and ID skills. It was in a conservation park adjoining a local suburb in SE QLD and was also under weed management. I found a few different acacia species and took some photos and carefully took a few little branch tips with phyllodes to help with ID. I also just did a web search on the conservation park and found a local council PDF that listed the species in the park. 5 acacia species were listed and through viewing my photos and some online sleuthing I've narrowed it down to what I think are acacia longissima and acacia disparrima. The first three photos is what I think is longissima.

The last is what I think is disparrima.

I would love to hear some other acacian nexians opinions on these, I quite enjoyed the walk amongst the trees!

Edit: Just to add, I would only be taking phyllodes from the acacia longissima (a few reports of 0.2% tryptamine in the phyllodes), there was plenty of them I found on my walk (or what seems to fit their description) and could easily harvest small amounts from a variety of them to hopefully sustainably harvest and not cause any lasting damage to them. Please correct me if there is a better way to go about this, or even if I should just leave them alone if it's better for them in the long run but from what I can gather from my research, harvesting phyllodes in modest amounts shouldn't cause any harm to the trees right?
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#847 Posted : 12/23/2014 1:10:33 PM

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A friendly bumpity bump on the above post Smile
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#848 Posted : 12/24/2014 11:10:56 AM

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I went for another walk today in the conservation park from my above post in SE QLD to explore a bit further and see if I could spot more acacia longissima and found some more mature specimens (at least what I think to be longissima) at around 3-4 metres tall. Again I took a few samples of tips of branches to see if I could get some help with ID's. Unfortunately there wasn't any seed pods but the phyllodes and flowers seem to fit the description. Please find some photos attached below.

I know seldom and nen have some experience with this one if you guys want to throw in your opinions. Merry xmas guys!
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#849 Posted : 12/24/2014 11:45:07 AM

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Hello Forum ok i went out again in the Sinai dessert and found a other tree which looks to be an acacia but i cant find exactly which one. I found online many pics with trees or acacias and flower like that yellow one but not sure which tree that should be... hope to found an acacia and a good one to make some tests on it Pleased

The whole tree


The Flowers (a lot of them)


Spine and seed



Leaf of the tree


similar to it are this acacias.

Acacia Flava

Acacia gerrardii Benth

and this one which looks for me also for the seed pot the most similar to my pictures

Vachellia farnesiana

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#850 Posted : 12/26/2014 12:25:56 PM

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Ok the last time i found this Acacia Tortilis, like here at the first picture you can not see it easy but at the down right site nearly to the corner you can see a bark coming out the sand...


i get a piece of it


Cut it in parts


Take of the root


And made smaller pieces for the grinder



and now im hoping to get out some results from the bark, ill take the outer and inner rootbark.

lets hope Smile
 
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#851 Posted : 12/30/2014 11:58:12 PM
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At least a lot of Acacias exude a sugary substance . Ants like it . I've read about them liveing off / with the help of ...... and i think even in symbiosis with Acaias in africa .

I had what i think was an Acacia Maidenii in my apartment . Ants discoveed it and made a nest in the roots and lived there just off the drops from the shoulder of the leaves that it exuded ........ and ...... they cut mini holes in some of the leaves and ate the sugary substance that came out . It didnt seem to harm the tree .
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#852 Posted : 12/31/2014 3:14:17 PM

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I can't be of much help with the ID but I can surely share my experience with ants, plants,and symbiosis... One of my large Banisteriopsis caapi plants which I keep outside became inhabited by black ants and did little to no harm. They were feeding and living off of the sugar liquid it secretes from the underside of leafs, making them both stronger because of it. Ants would protect the plant, and plant would feed the ants.
Definitely a neat relatonship.

 
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#853 Posted : 1/10/2015 12:58:37 AM

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I never understood how immense and wide ranging these beautiful plants are until my recent trip to the forests of south western australia.

You cant avoid bumping into one if you tried.
I managed to forage some seed pods off of this species to take homr with me and plant but i dont know the exact species.
Some help with ID woud be much apreciated Big grin
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#854 Posted : 1/15/2015 9:22:48 AM

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Now that I am finally home And settled in... Phew!
I can post a pic of those seed pods from the above post.


And here is another beauty I found on my ride today.
Inconsistency is in my nature.
The simple PHYLLODE tek

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#855 Posted : 1/15/2015 10:34:02 AM

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acacia cyclops
 
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#856 Posted : 1/15/2015 10:56:54 AM

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I don't think it's A. Cyclops, the first picture was off a medium sized tree (roughly 10-12 feet tall) with 4-5cm phyllodes.
Looked nothing like the cyclops I've seen along the WA beaches.
The second photo is off a tree in Victoria, it was tall.... Very tall. Amongst quite a few others, I gauged one of them at around 30-40 metres tall.
I will take some photos of them tomorrow afternoon when I have more than 5% battery on my phone Razz
I'm worried about the metadata (location information) of my phone, if they are a significant species I really don't feel comfortable having even photos taken from their location on the Internet. It's a spectacular grove, with many saplings in rich soil.
Inconsistency is in my nature.
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#857 Posted : 1/16/2015 2:33:15 AM

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Ok so after researching, I've whittled down the scimitar shaped leaf specimen to either Implexa or Melanoxylon. Based on tree height and distribution.
And I think you are right about the first pic man, it is cyclops but not a variation I've witnessed before. Thanks for the help Big grin
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#858 Posted : 1/16/2015 7:16:48 AM

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You should be able to differentiate them by the bark, the 2nd pic does look very much like a.implexa. Implexa bark is very rough, it usually grows spindly and tall. The moneys on implexa, although Ive never heard of it being tested before I get a good feeling about the strains with white/cream flowers.
 
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#859 Posted : 1/16/2015 10:10:07 AM

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This is the trunk of the suspected implexa.
I burnt a phyllode with my lighter and the smoke had a distinct acrid smell, after inhaling the smoke from the whole phyllode I felt very at peace with my surroundings. Not sure if that was a placebo though.
When I get some time I will do a test extraction to see if it is viable. There are half a dozen trees of that variety in the grove and they are well hidden from prying eyes.
Inconsistency is in my nature.
The simple PHYLLODE tek

I'm just waiting for these bloody plants to grow
 
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#860 Posted : 1/16/2015 7:26:17 PM

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Yep a.implexa
 
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