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#781 Posted : 8/29/2014 10:25:51 AM

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gogolbro wrote:
Hey all, I have found what I believe to be either a. MEARNSII or a. DEALBATA, if someone could give me an I.D. it would be greatly appreciated.


Hey gogolbro, it's not dealbata... maybe a.fulva

a.dealbata does not have interjugary glands which I can see from your first pic

Runner, I think you have a mimosa or albizia of some sort
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#782 Posted : 8/29/2014 10:50:40 AM

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Much appreciated Shadow! I will assume mearnsii Smile
 
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#783 Posted : 8/29/2014 11:16:45 AM

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Sorry... I edited my post above.

It's not mearnsii, mearnsii have jugary glands, where your one doesn't
Have you looked at a.fulva?
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#784 Posted : 8/29/2014 11:49:48 AM

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Sorry... I edited my post above.

It's not mearnsii, mearnsii have jugary glands, where your one doesn't
Have you looked at a.fulva?


That's fine my friend, thanks for you quick reply. A. fulva is looking pretty much identical. Although I noticed the lack of findings from this plant, would be interesting to do some experiments.

Jugary glands? As in the small bumps along the stem?
After finding this: http://www.utas.edu.au/d.../FABACEAE/gAcacia_25.htm

It seems that this specimen has inter-juggary glands, specifically photo 3 if zoomed in as far as possible Big grin

Thanks again, Shadow
 
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#785 Posted : 8/29/2014 12:20:01 PM

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Hey all. Smile
This is my first post here, long time lurker. Lol.
Anyway, I went for a walk today and in my local area I stumbled across an Acacia.
However Im quite shocking at IDing them, so any help would be appreciated
if I need better photos please tell me
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#786 Posted : 8/29/2014 12:28:21 PM

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The last one looks very much like a.floribunda , abundant flowers. Its a great plant to learn the basics of IDing on.
 
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#787 Posted : 8/29/2014 12:55:55 PM

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Awesome man.
All photos are of the same tree Smile
I looked at it and thought it was maidenii or longifolia at first. Haha
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#788 Posted : 8/30/2014 6:35:40 AM

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..looks like longifolia maybe

Have a look and see if there are any tiny hairs on the penduncles (flower stems), if there are no hairs, then might be longifolia

If there are hairs, then may be maidenii or floribunda...

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#789 Posted : 8/30/2014 8:23:15 AM

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Does it have 2 trunks? Often floribunda has 2.
 
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#790 Posted : 8/30/2014 9:27:31 AM

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I couldn't see the trunks as it was behind a fence.
However I took a small branch home today to look for a better ID.
As far as I can see there are no little hairs.
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#791 Posted : 8/30/2014 9:32:52 AM

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Don't know if this helps at all,
Leaf length was 120mm long and 5mm wide.
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#792 Posted : 8/30/2014 12:54:44 PM

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Ok so its not a.floribunda as it looks to have a central nerve, also one of the pyhyllodes looked hookshaped. Which state is it in?
 
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#793 Posted : 8/30/2014 1:16:30 PM

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Down the street further I found another 5 trees with similar flowers ,
All the pyhyllodes seemed to look a little different to each other to me.
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#794 Posted : 8/30/2014 1:41:26 PM

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kubizm wrote:
As far as I can see there are no little hairs.

In that case, I'm pretty sure it's longifolia
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#795 Posted : 8/30/2014 2:02:54 PM
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..some good ID discussion going on..
with my limited time, let me add:

-Shadow..i think you have (on previous page) Acacia siculiformis..

SweetDreams..looks like may well be A. maidenii dominant (and perhaps a cross as you suggest) ..A. maidenii has a few sub-types (though not officially defined) ..active A. maidenii are very potent plants..
pods here are the key..if twisted/coiled it's maidenii..

ZeroSignal..does look like A. floribunda (mucronata is nowhere near as abundant in flowers)

and above does look like longifolia (kubizm)..

keep up the good work DreaMTripper and -Shadow..

 
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#796 Posted : 8/30/2014 3:24:23 PM

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Thanks for the responses, much appreciated. There are documented instances of A. Floribunda in my area (Eastern Victoria,) and it is flowering time for them. This quote by acacian is quite encouraging too:

acacian wrote:

from what I gather the type of floribunda you want has really creamy white flower rods rather than lemon coloured like you find in a lot of commercial strains. a lot of floribunda down here have more yellowy coloured flowers, though out bush I have observed a couple with the whiter flowers.. unfortunately one which I planned on testing I never found again - it may have died or been cut down... it also had a smooth trunk and grew more tree-like compared to the rough trunked more prostrate commercial varieties found growing in urban areas

if you can get the right strain it sounds like a great tree to work with Smile



I intend to attempt an a/b on the phyllodes and stems of the trees I posted in the next few days, as they're very mature examples and there's quite a lot of them and I'd sooner avoid bark extractions for the sake of the trees. I'll post the results if successful or not, and if it works out favourably I'll look at growing my own. Thanks again.



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#797 Posted : 9/2/2014 8:56:20 PM
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hey guys , i found this tree today and i need help finding out what it is Smile
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Runner, look's like you're having quite a time finding various Acacias in flower at the moment.... I recently did the drive between Canberra and Sydney and you can literally see hundreds of thousands of Acacia's in bloom right now. (see below)

From you pic, it's hard to tell.... maybe some type of terminalis Confused , is it possible to get a better pic of the foliage, including closeup of the leaf stems (pinnae)? (even a ruler in the background can greatly help with ID accuracy)

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#799 Posted : 9/3/2014 4:43:40 AM

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as for the trees that I posted, what would be the best way to test to see if theres anything in them?
grab a bunch of leaves and twigs?
would be my very first time trying anything like this,
would the best ting to do just follow cybs tek?
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#800 Posted : 9/8/2014 1:44:26 PM

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So I went for a walk today near my new place,
Found a bunch of acacia's and got me excited,
I found the one exactly the same as I posted just before and saw it did have 2 trunks.
I saw a bunch of Acacia Pycnantha,
Here is another one I found, any idea on what it is?
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