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DansMaTete wrote:Mindlusion wrote:... The Mach 30 comes from tracking the the object moving 30 000 miles in 0.76 seconds. ...
Those numbers are weird. afaik : mach 30 ~ 36750Km/h ~ 10Km/s ~ 6.3 mile/s Mixed up my kilometers with miles, not an american  Expect nothing, Receive everything.
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Nydex wrote:null24 wrote:ozzoes wrote:In the end it all comes down to what you want to believe. Ive seen my fair share of unexplained shit; strangely and even more unexplainable ive seen it almost daily during a period of my life when i was a true believer... when i became skeptical the sightings ended...
We all wanna be special, either by having seen something unexplainable or by explaining something which cant be explained.
The truth lies somewhere in the middle, probably right between those ears of us, nestled behind our eyes.
True or not, its all entertainment and doesnt change your life in the slightest unless you decide to do so. Uh, yeah, no. You are way, way off base. You seem confined only to your own dogma in this post, in which you tell me that I'm believing what I want despite having been a rational and sober-and formerly highly skeptical- witness to a structural craft of some sort that defies known physics in flight and could not have been any of the other possible candidates, from fireworks to the ISS. You can think this is a just self-aggrandizing lie on my part for the purpose of entertaining you, but that would be highly self-flattering of you and offensive to my character. But hey, think what you want. I don't care if you believe anything or not, but if you are unable to empathise with something, you shouldn't judge it. It seems to me that you are the victim of belief here, not me. I'm trying to figure out what I saw, and come to some understanding of it. I highly doubt ozzoes wrote what he wrote with the intent of dismissing what you saw, or of imposing some form of characterization on you. I think he meant that we're largely influenced by our beliefs, and that some people that see stuff like that dismiss it in disbelief, but others, like yourself and many others, dive deeper and expand on the possibilities using their imagination, hopes, desires and available data to create some sort of understanding of what has been seen. Let's not turn this thread into finger-pointing and name-calling. Nobody knows shit about it all, and that's the beauty of it. I think it's fair to say you shall not receive a clear answer to the question of what it is you saw exactly. That being said, there's no harm in letting your imagination go wild, fueled by your hope that what you saw was what you hope you saw. Maybe one day I will meet Them. I remain hopeful. I'm sorry that this escaped my attention until now. I sincerely apologise if my post came off wrong, I in no way meant to make anybody feel that way. I guess I was just trying to impress my veracity in this as an experience that was beyond belief but nonetheless very much real. The whole thing is a hard to tread path through a wilderness of belief, imagination, reality and credibility. I felt more comfortable talking about a transformational psychedelic experience shortly after it occurred. Again, sorry. I'm not known for my social finesse. Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
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Messing around with a phone photo app, I made this as a visualization for the thing I saw. Tried to take a picture of the view of the sky at the same time, but I only have a phone to take photographs with, so it's not the clearest representation. I tried to illustrate the difference in magnitude and apparent proximity to the stars that were visible. The view is looking directly up, with the right hand sight due north, and the star above the formation is Cygnus. I was lying on my back, feet to the West, the bottom of the picture. This is the position at which it 'appeared'. null24 attached the following image(s):  PicsArt_11-05-12.40.32.jpg (94kb) downloaded 37 time(s).Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
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