@Intezam what is the non-glass, non-metal piece touching the outside of the j-hook in the picture? (The Listing is not available anymore, that is the j-hook, the decreaser, and what as the third part called?) And it seems there is additional length between the flame and the ribbons where the spice is melted, do you have any troubles?

1. That's called a 'k-clip' - it is not needed really, but this one came with the sherlock j-hook. The 'k-clip' is more useful in different setup, i.e. when you connect an ashcatcher to the j-hook...etc.

2. Yup, listing went offline after ebay deleted all this seller's items. There seems to be a paypal regulation that prohibits the sale of glass pipes. Anyway, they have another shop on ebay. Third part was be called: 18MM-FEMALE-TO-18MM-MALE-WITH-BULB-ADAPTER
You can also order it directly at their shop together with all the other parts and use the 10%off promo code. All the information is here. The links are below the promo card.

3. We did not fully understand the troubles question. We did not melt the spice into the pot scrubber.
The pot scrubber in this setting serves only as to lift up the screens and the volcano liquid pad, bringing them more closely towards the ceramic disc. We melt (preload) the spice into the volcano pad. But we agree, that a smaller less bulbous chamber could (maybe) be better (?) But we haven't found one in 18mm other than in downstems.
There is a particular one we like and our local headshop has it.
They can cut the stem to any custom size at no extra cost (incl.all off).This downstem costs € 6.99. What looks like a bowl is really a 18mm female ground glass connector - it just has thicker 'rounded' glass on the outside. We like that. Here is a picture:

Well as far as I understand copper is safe at vape temps, while the volcano pad has no oil residue, the copper ribbon can have that burned off, so why not use copious ribbon like because of its benefit of wider surface area instead? The question of troubles was not about Lee Perry's music's benefit to humanity but rather it was a question about if you have find it difficult to get heat to vape the spice?

my vieuw
http://www.dhgate.com/st...ttachment/197075329.html
http://www.dhgate.com/st...s-adapter/190729208.html

5X jhooka 23 dollar 18 mm fit female
5x decreaser 15 dollar 28 from 18 to 14 male to female

total 38 dollar

(5x) well i use 2 reducers and one j hook
some space between materials maybe for ur spice, weed tabak what ever?

maybe this helps, Really its quit thick glass
http://www.dhgate.com/st...-4mm-male/196104550.html

7.7 usd two pieces male 14 to 18 female and your top piece heat dissfuser goes on top

maybe like to customize lenght ? because of the conduction of the glass ?
here you go..
keep the reducer original length just increases the conduction of the material, the filter does the magic
incriese the inlet for the flame well i guess you know what i mean no matter if you use a bowl stem piece actually
the bigger higher from the ceramic just the more/faster conduction you create at the glass

glass versus glass

you lay your spice for exmpl ontop of ceramic or copper or stainless steal
when you allow airflow to conduct places in your glass ? isnt that like isolation ?
the whole meaning of a heat resistor like porous ceramic ?

well if you saw the lower point of a reducer put a little wire or copper up there for isolation matter, and ground piece

on top of that a ceramic filter i dont care mine is 1mm thick i pressed an stainless steal filter around it so i guess the coldest places are the glass and ceramic + ceramic cools much faster
the airflow goes around it the copper you can make it as dense as u want but, there for warms up much faster?
the ceramic on top is laying free ? from glass sides ? bottem ? i guess its warming up slower ? as it block the airflow? and warms up the hole chamber forcing the spice to melt run down, ect
making vaporisation faster? easyer ? making it harder too just burn?
dont allow a flame to hurt you? nor ur spice

only have to be creative, i dont care 4 cm saw blade with a stem for in your drill machine?

all in all, id like the solicon carbide stones respect to vaporgenie

as i read Intezam your stone is 11.1 well it warms up much faster of course mine is 14 mm
well i guess were all familiar to grinding
and well seal the the top of ur ceramic to prevent flame to go around

no vat number theres nothing wrong with chinese glass sometimes its thinner as i know
30 days flight to the netherland patience

is the only thing all those pieces are shipped registered
that doest have to say a thing but i always received my goods


i would say lets play
only thing is, vaporgenie doest like to give away replacement parts
well dont get me wrong, when money isnt the problem ill let u know

last picture there is weed in there im sorry but it helped out a bit with learning curve
i doest have to be the same as for gvg uhm talking about mine device my stone lays higher in the female joint and has bigger surface
slower warming up or bigger torch or narrow the inlet

@Stefan555 Sorry, but I had a lot of trouble understanding what you said.

@RibbedFlank
sometimes, though there haven't been problems with the steel liquid pad, we use this.


@stefan555
Some interesting ideas probably picked up somewhere (at the nexus?), so kathy sunshine better gets going or somebody else will....(make all the money)

Why do you use a separate wire than the one deepest in the bowl and use two or more? For pre loading and melting so the spice doesn't move? I mean the whole bowl is covered anyways why is premelting necessary? Or is the thin wire beneath the ribbon in the pic?

Great pics! Would you still prefer the reducer while you could attach one of those frit caps to your pipe? They seem very similar to the vapo-bowl.

It's not necessary, but we do it anyway (there is considerable build up of anxiety here and we don't don't want to handle powders and tiny spatulas in that state of mind, so we preload it and have it ready)



We like to experryment. There is not just one (1) way of doing things. And since we are a new to being a space cadet, we still try to perfect our vaping and torch lighter skills. There are many variables here (in our mind). The ribbon copper (pot scrubber) is kind of springy, and if we compress it to hard, it blocks the air flow. The volcano liquid pad (or DIY copper pad) doesn't do that. It's not springy and it can be compressed to pill size and air will be flowing trough nicely. Our sandwiching methods is like plan A (liquid pad) plan B (if spice escapes - it will first run into the three steel screens) Plan C (if spice escapes from there - it will be running into the pot scrubber mesh (ribbon). The objective is to keep it away from the glass & inhale as much of it as possible in one large toke.... (..and holding it)
However, as we said before: the main function of the pot scrubber mesh is to raise the platform. The main function of the steel srceen is: being an even platform. The main function of the liquid pad is: holding the spice. The main function of the ceramic disc is being a heat shield (while letting hot air through)

Also: ..this is difficult to describe. The 'toke amount of air flow'. It needs to be tweaked with this kind of pipe - since the glass on glass openings are pretty large, while the ceramic disc reduces it largely, much of it depends in the quality of that disc.
The flavour disc is obviously of a lower quality then the VG disc or the AQL he@lth st*ne.
Hence everyone's j-hook pipe has a slightly different feel and people tweak it until it feels right for them.

..there is some people who melt the spice directly into the ceramic disc and then slowly apply heat from above while inhaling ---that would also work, just as 'the mashine' also works...


.. the metal top of the vapo bowl has a little grip on it, that, when piping hot, can be lifted off using a pair of scissors...etc and stir one's herbal mix/changa/enhanced leaf/flip the liquid pad...etc. If one has the glass frit/ceramic disc directly sitting snug in there (above the bowl) - this action could be cumbersome. So a reducer is great. You can easily lift it off. For ease of access..

There are plenty of alternatives out there and cheap as well this part is $5.99
http://www.thickassglass...ducts/14-to-18mm-adapter

This one is $6.95
http://www.thickassglass...adapter-18-8mm-to-14-4mm

And this is $7.99
http://www.thickassglass...ucts/8-sherlock-arm-18mm

Then I was thinking two ceramic flavor discs $7.99

All up $21 US dollars

So are you saying it would be cumbersome to have a disc inside the vapo bowl to load the spice onto or are you suggesting the vapo bowl is easier to handle when hot than the other product with the glass frit disc? Since you can't use a reducer with a vapo bowl are you suggesting either use the vapo bowl alone or use the reducer with a glass frit or ceramic disc?

And why choose the volcano liquid pad as the removable screen for its size when you can make a ribbon screen of the same diameter?

So are you saying it would be cumbersome to have a disc inside the vapo bowl to load the spice onto or are you suggesting the vapo bowl is easier to handle when hot than the other product with the glass frit disc? Since you can't use a reducer with a vapo bowl are you suggesting either use the vapo bowl alone or use the reducer with a glass frit or ceramic disc?

And why choose the volcano liquid pad as the removable screen for its size when you can make a ribbon screen of the same diameter?[/quote\\\




looks like its never enough

wel for now it is or was... looking forward to tomorrow.... uh last thing porous stone lies beutifull on a 14 mm stem

Bump (after two years)

Any recent progress in making a GVG alternative?