thanks Orion. I'm going to research this some more. I find 25c to be way more visual than 25i but 25i to be more euphoric. 25c makes walls breathe and shift warping and melding 25i I find gives a more rippling effect on surfaces. Guess I'll never get to sample 25b which I'm hearing is the best of them. anyway I hate nbomes now . Also 25c is laid in smaller dosages than 25i usually no more than 800 mcg. I'm curious to know why.

Do you have the DOM blotters with "DOM 5 mg" printed on the back and a design on the front? We might have the same blotter... Anyways, tolerance would make the effects difficult. It is not a typical LSD/dmt fractally funland psychedelic, it tends to hyperamplify reality insted of distorting it.

But speaking to you personally, it doesn't sound like your relationship with psychedelics is very respectful or healthy. Take a second to reassess your goals and lifestyle before you indulge again.

Man. You are really lucky. Thank your lucky stars that you had a girlfriend who would stick with giving you mouth to mouth for a half hour... most people would have freaked and ran to call 911 (or whatever the number is in Australia). You put her through a terrible ordeal. As someone who has resuscitated a few people in my time, I can say that the feeling of trying to bring someone back from the brink... and knowing that if you are not on your game, they might die... to have that much responsibility thrust on you by someone... it is rough. You owe her, big time.

I won't come down on you any more than you already have been hammered here. You deserve it, but I am guessing you know that you were asking for trouble. What you described was basically a deathwish. (assuming you are not mentally handicapped)

The one thing no one touched on here, and you glossed over is this:



I hate to always be that guy here on the Nexus... but are you sure this was "just a really bad trip?"

In my lengthy experience, people often are involved with "demonic" forces when they "accidentally" overdose or try to kill themselves. A lot of people talk about demons and spiritual warfare when describing the circumstances of their NDE's and suicide attempts.

I think it is a mistake to underestimate the power of dark entities and astral parasites. Do this at your own peril.

I will probably get some flak for this, but I feel like some of these RC's, and the fact that they are being spread around so much, have roots in dark, anti-life entities and their manipulations. Some drugs just scream evil to me. As bad as ice/meth etc. were... or the old dark deleriants like datura/belladona, some of these bathsalts and mephedrone things seem designed to take people out...

Even the more benign RC's are worrisome to me now. There are a couple I thought were worthy, that showed some ugliness to me in the last few months. I am thinking that ayahuasca is one of the only truly good "drugs" around at this point.

At any rate, bro... you need to take a looong break from ALL drugs and substances. Seriously. You need to get really sober and healthy. I mean raw food, tons of water, and restorative yoga healthy. You also need to take a long, hard look in the mirror, and then look even closer. There are some cracks in your spiritual armor... and you need to fix them or you will be asking for trouble. In these times, psychonauts have to be impeccable. There is less room for error now. Be as righteous and good as you possibly can... and then get better than that.

My 2c. Take it or leave it.

HSF

Hi Hyper, I know what you mean and thanks for your post. Something did feel really wrong about my trip . I was watching some ayauhesca docos at the time on a popular live streaming channel everyone knows (though I'm not sure I can mention on here for whatever reason) and the host of the podcast was interviewing a friend who recently went to peru and had a ceremony, The host has spikey grey hair and a little goaty , I know this now coz I've watched it sober but when I was tripping on all nbomes and shrooms It all went evil on me . His hair was green and his face was red and the guy was totally demonic and the guest was channelling reptilian spirits that were taking his life force and speaking in tongues ... It felt like they were attacking me ... Ive watched this video again and the host is a genuine good guy helping people and he is totally cool, humble and down to earth the guest on the podcast is too and he doesn't even mention reptilian spirits at all. I was misinterpreting everything about this video and seeing it as the opposite of what it really is. I started hearing whispers and feeling really scared so I started chanting to god for help, I'm not that religious but it felt right at the time. This did wear off and my overdose occurred much later, 5 hours and I wasn't tripping at all when I collapsed. Ive done datura 3 times in my life, another stupid thing to do and that was scary and confusing but not like this. Datura puts you into another type of dream . Its not a hallucination its as real as can be and has none of these elements. Datura felt like just another day in my life with my friends that would come and go and everything was sort of normal except in reality I was alone drooling on my floor smoking imaginary cigarettes and speaking gibberish. The dry mouth and cramping was horrible and the utter confusion was too much, it was like I was detached from my emotions. I also got lost in my front yard and kept trying to crawl into my neighbours houses thinking they were mine. Datura sux it holds no pleasure. . here I am ranting on about another bad and dangerous trip. . I ate 4 big white flowers from tree datura I could have died that time too, from an OD or a neighbours bullet lol

I think your right . They're a blue colour . Mine look a bit patchy though like they were laid unevenly.

The nbomes seems to become only more and more common. In my home country the market is completely overfloded with nbomes and not just the standard types like 25i, 25c, 25b and so on that have at least been tested a little bit but also wierd types of new nbomes like 25G, 25M, 25N 2c-tfm-nbome and so on. There is even a couple of nbomes that no one, not even the ones that sell them, know what they exactly look like.

Getting LSD on the streets nowdays is completely impossible, if you buy something on a blotter you can be 99% sure that it's an nbome.

No matter the fact that nbomes can be dangerous they are no doubt here to stay for a number of years ahead.

Hey there, this might be off topic, but I am simply looking to create a DMT brew with Psychotria viridis ( Chacruna ). However I am reading contradicting information. On one hand I have read this "DO NOT use MAOIs (so for example an ayahuasca brew) together with stimulants (like mdma/amphetamines) or SSRI medication (like prozac), this can cause serotonin syndrome and lead to convulsions or even death!"

But on the contrary I have read that MAOIs should be used in conjuction with a DMT brew. So I am a little confused to be fair.

I am hoping that I can use RAW chocolate as a MAOI....does anyone have any data on this or other more effective MAOIs?

Any advice will be gratefully received.

Thanks

wow dude, sounds gnarly!

This might be off topic, but I am simply looking to create a DMT brew with Psychotria viridis ( Chacruna ). However I am reading contradicting information. On one hand I have read this "DO NOT use MAOIs (so for example an ayahuasca brew) together with stimulants (like mdma/amphetamines) or SSRI medication (like prozac), this can cause serotonin syndrome and lead to convulsions or even death!"

But on the contrary I have read that MAOIs should be used in conjuction with a DMT brew. So I am a little confused to be fair.

I am hoping that I can use RAW chocolate as a MAOI....does anyone have any data on this or other more effective MAOIs?

Any advice will be gratefully received.

Thanks

Misterunagi, I`m glad you survived your experience and shared you story hopefully preventing others from ending up in the same place...or worse

Gaz, harmalas, which are a part of ayahuasca, are (reversible) MAOIs. They are not dangerous by themselves (or in conjunction with DMT, like in ayahuasca), the danger comes if you take a stimulant or some specific pharmaceutic medications together. If you don`t, you`re safe

As endlessness said, DMT and MAOI's are a safe combination. MAOI's and stimulants (such as MDMA/amphetamines) are an extremely dangerous combination and should not be attempted. Would you mind explaining how you get the impression that these two facts contradict one another?

As far as using chocolate as an MAOI in conjecture with oral DMT, I have never heard of anyone trying this. I have never heard of chocolate having MAOI effects, and if it does I don't imagine it would have enough of an effect to allow DMT to be orally active. I feel like if chocolate were a powerful enough MAOI to do this, there would likely be a lot of reports of people dying or being harmed from eating raw chocolate while taking medications. That being said, I also don't see any reason why raw chocolate and DMT would have any sort of dangerous interaction, so it certainly wouldn't hurt to try it. Let us know if it works!

This has definitely been mentioned before on the forum, I could be wrong but I think I remember Jamie mentioning it, you might want to search through his posts to see. im pretty sure it doesn't work though

[quote=Entheogenerator][quote=Gaz]This might be off topic, but I am simply looking to create a DMT brew with Psychotria viridis ( Chacruna ). However I am reading contradicting information. On one hand I have read this "DO NOT use MAOIs (so for example an ayahuasca brew) together with stimulants (like mdma/amphetamines) or SSRI medication (like prozac), this can cause serotonin syndrome and lead to convulsions or even death!"

But on the contrary I have read that MAOIs should be used in conjuction with a DMT brew. So I am a little confused to be fair.

Entheogenerator: "Would you mind explaining how you get the impression that these two facts contradict one another?"

Thanks for all of your comments!
It was a long day and I can now see, that there was actually no contradiction (I am a newbie to be fair), my feeling is that the part "(so for example an ayahuasca brew)" is slightly misleading...as "ayahuasca brew" is not a MAOI, but a brew of DMT + MAOI (correct?), which confused me a little, leading to some further unrelated confusion

Can anyone tell me which is the safest and most potent MAOI or a best balance of the two?

Gaz, please start a new thread with these questions or search the forum for these easily obtained answers.
You have hijacked a totally unrelated thread. Thankyou.

Thanks Cyb. He sure did. He deserves an atomic wedgie.

Hey Cyb,

I sure did....I tried for ages to start a new thread and couldn't find the New Thread Button....where is it hidden? I would have started a new thread on how to start a New Thread, but I am having trouble finding the button "Start a New Thread"....now I am repeating myself!

Is it the New Topic button, I thought this would start a new Topic on the same thread...

Yes, the "New Topic" button starts a new thread. You will only be allowed to post here in the "Welcome Area" subforum until you are a full member. This is explained further in this thread.

Amen!

Yes, indeed. All you need are the plant teachers. RC's are gross.

That's true about plants. Mushroom used to be my favourite psychedelic and I have nearly 20 years of experience with monthly or weekly doses, of course there have been breaks in between but the few times I've had total loss of strength in my legs scared me or when one time my eyelids couldn't open or my last experience that started the same but ended up with a near death has left me confused. I don't know why they do that to me. Its like my legs have no bones and I just cant support my body. It didn't bother me though until I had this nbome, alcohol ,combination. I really love mushroom but I am scared. I carefully choose only quality shrooms with strong blueing on stems. Maybe it's because I never check dosage I just get 2 or 3 heaped tablespoons of powder and drop it in a standard size coffee mug. I know its always a very stong dose. I really gotta research this some more. Every day I remember my overdose and the thoughts that went through my head as I spasmed and turned blue and how I thought that's it, it's over, I'm joining the nbome statistics club . I'll be number 4 in my country. I remember when I just went still and I could see my frantic girlfriend and I knew it was over though I felt strangely detached and sad for her then she started pumping my heart and I felt something come back. I felt my pupils shrink and the fight come back to me and the will to breath. It also makes me sad that I didn't have an N.D.E or see anything of the other side. Anyhoo I'm just going on and on now. Merry xmas everyone

i'm not sure if this is ok here, you might want to edit it out.

I'm glad your ok