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Tattvamasi wrote:As I've stated before in various threads, I feel that consciousness, beyond the various faculties of mind and the many layers of thought/hopes/desires/memories/etc (present in all sentinent beings), there is a raw form of awareness that is neither male nor female, good or bad, this or that. This awareness is completely impartial. This awareness is ALL. We and the entire physical universe are bathed in this awareness. The stuff that dreams are made on perhaps? This awareness is neither real or non-real. Just is. I can't pretend to know what happens upon death, but I feel DMT has shed a small amount of light on the matter. I will say this though...imho...death is certainly not the end. All is in transition, and it will never stop. Some are obsessed with the concept of immortality and/or extension of life....well they need not worry... I think we got that covered.  much lovr, tat Great post Tat. This awareness is ALL. When put in those terms it really is almost undeniable. There is nothing anywhere in this physical universe this is composed of anything outside of awareness. This base level or root level awareness is the ground of all being. It's what gives rudimentary awareness to a particle or bacteria and what gives us 'high' level consciousness as a human. Most of my theories on this have come from one of the most profound aya/changa sessions I ever had....well and now grounded in buddhist philosophy. I was shown how evolution and all of life was a process tending towards greater and greater levels of awareness. This awareness has alway's been and presumably will alway's be. It took the evolution of the human nervous system to experience it they\ way we do, but does this in any way mean it's the grand finally of evolution? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.  Love you guy's. Is it me or have these conversations grown more civil over the years! Peace If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
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gibran2 wrote:One of the problems with lots of these interpretations is the assumption that there is a physical self to begin with. What you are, in the here and now, may be neither physical nor a “self”.
Let me explain via a simple analogy (which I’ve used countless times before).
Imagine that you’re reading a novel written by an exceptionally talented writer. As you read, you come to know the characters very well. You know the neighborhood where they live out their lives. You feel their joys and their sorrows, You experience their births and their deaths, their triumphs and their tragedies.
And then the story ends.
Where did all of the characters exist? In their neighborhood or in your head?
Who was actually feeling their feelings and thinking their thoughts? The characters themselves or you?
Were any of the characters ever physically born? Did any of them physically die? Or did their births and deaths all happen in your mind?
After the story is over, you fondly remember the characters and their world. If it’s a good story, it changes you – it helps you to grow. The characters become a part of you.
Is it so hard to imagine that we are like the characters in the story? Not really existing, other than in the “mind” of a “reader”?
So maybe we’re asking the wrong questions.
Damn Gibby!! That's the best analogy for the "God the dreamer" concept I've ever heard. seriously wow, thanks you. That will give my brain something to chew on for the day. I am not gonna lie, shits gonna get weird!Troubles Breaking Through? Click here. The Art of Changa. making the perfect blend.
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Hello
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as a young child I had memories and dreams of walking around my grandmothers house through the eyes of my grandfather whom I have never met as he died before i was born. these dreams and memories have always been in either black+white or infra red which I have always found puzzling.
with that in mind I can attest to consciousness before birth but after death I suppose is a completely different story.
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I've always had this thought that even if life after death is just pure nothingness, that in itself is an other-worldly experience. so many people are so quick to say "nothing happens when you die" as a simple explanation, when having no idea of what "nothing" actually is.
Even when sleeping your mind is functioning and thinking, now imagine complete nothingness. you picture a black void, but even that doesn't do justice. there's no such thing as black, theres no thought, theres no you period. you dont have memories, you dont have anything, its as if the entire universe just never existed period.
to me, that seems like a theory even harder to wrap your head around than something like reincarnation, for example.
but i dont subscribe to any spesific belief, this is all speculative
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लीला
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Hyperspace Fool wrote:
I don't think that the same thing happens to all of us.
Since our individual experiences in life are so vastly different it would only make sense that our experiences of how each of us perceive death will also be radically different. Incredibly well put HF. “Music is the voice of God traveling through ten-dimensional hyperspace.”
― Michio Kaku
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AtomicChronic wrote:I've always had this thought that even if life after death is just pure nothingness, that in itself is an other-worldly experience. so many people are so quick to say "nothing happens when you die" as a simple explanation, when having no idea of what "nothing" actually is.
Even when sleeping your mind is functioning and thinking, now imagine complete nothingness. you picture a black void, but even that doesn't do justice. there's no such thing as black, theres no thought, theres no you period. you dont have memories, you dont have anything, its as if the entire universe just never existed period. This, so much. Many people, when they say that after death there is "silent darkness for eternity", probably haven't thought the issue through. First of all, there can be neither silence nor darkness in nothingness, many people do get that though. But the real kicker is, there can't even be an eternity for the nothingness to manifest itself in! What really needs to be asked is, is the nothingness instantaneous or eternal? How could it be eternal? And if it's instantaneous, doesn't it follow that it's followed by something else? Maybe a consciousness about to be ignited in another brain somewhere else or something, I don't know  Anyway, in our culture there is a tendency to treat the question of what happens after death democratically. As in, you all can believe whatever you want, but let's keep it that way - let's not try to find out, empirically and objectively, what really happens. But that attitude might be slowly changing. Here is a good talk by a cardiologist who is a world-leading researcher on the issue, and here is an interesting read regarding how we as a culture, and especially academia and religion, treat the subject. "As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved." - Christian AndréasonDude, that blonde girl is a total DMT/10.
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gibran2 wrote:One of the problems with lots of these interpretations is the assumption that there is a physical self to begin with. What you are, in the here and now, may be neither physical nor a “self”. This is such an interesting nugget. I read a thread last week that brought up the holographic universe theory, and I wonder if you see them as similar concepts. Or if maybe wave-particle physics ties in? In my layperson understanding, quantum mechanics tells us that the wave of probable locations for an electron is a better description than picturing location as a unique place, so maybe on a macro scale an entire probability wave existing rather than unique "real" manifestations would be similar conceptually? Forge a Path with Heart <3
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I have always had a soft spot for the Discworld view of things. For those of you who aren't familiar with Terry Pratchett's novels, in them, when you die, you are greeted by an unfailingly polite and professional Grim Reaper ( WHO SPEAKS IN SMALL CAPS), whereupon your soul ends up going wherever you believe you should end up. If you believe in reincarnation, that's where you're headed. If you believe you're going to a paradise with 70 virgins and sherbert, you'll find yourself there. There's a sort of tacit assumption that everything works out for the best, in the end. Personally, I believe that my ego and consciousness will cease to exist upon death, and my soul, no longer trapped in a physical body with a self-centered brain will expand out and become one with the entire universe. Nirvana, essentially. "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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As Socrates once said...."All I know is that I know nothing."
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I haven't had the privilege to partake in a DMT trip yet...But Im constantly looking at psychedelics, from books like "The inner Pathways to outer space" and the Ancient Egyptian Book of the dead and its description of the Duat, and how to pass through it, is pretty similar to the Tibetin book of the dead describing the Bardo Thodol....It seams to me that there may be an afterlife, the Egyptians were practicing that for over 2000years...They used psychedelics in the pyramid to induce a egoloss state, that also involved navigating the Duat. I came to this notion after watching a mix of: John Anthony West's Magical Egypt/Mystery of the Sphinx & Graham Hancocks/Robert Buvalls (sp) work.........So I think if you want to understand what the Afterlife might be about, I'd say start with the Egyptians, thats was there thing...You can take that apply to it, what we know today about altered states, shamanism, multiveres, consciousness ect...and when you do, it looks like there may be something to this Just maybe they were right ~ “We have been to the moon, we have charted the depths of the ocean and the heart of the atom, but we have a fear of looking inward to ourselves because we sense that is where all the contradictions flow together.”~ ― Terence McKenna *Psychonaut*
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Chaos: The Ultimate Order
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“If the baby in the darkness of its mother’s womb were told: “Outside there is a world of life , with high mountains, great seas, undulating planes, beautiful gardens in blossom, a sky full of stars, and a blazing sun … And you, facing all these marvels, stay enclosed in this darkness …” The unborn child, knowing nothing about these marvels, would not believe any of this. Like us, when we are facing death. That’s why we’re afraid. - But there can’t be light in death because it‘s the end of everything. - How can death be the end of something which has no beginning? Hassan, my son, don’t be sad on my wedding night. - Your wedding night? - Yes. My marriage with eternity.” (The Prince Who Contemplated His Soul) "They tease me now, telling me it was only a dream. But does it matter whether it was a dream or reality, if the dream made known to me the truth?" - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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Chaoskampf wrote:“If the baby in the darkness of its mother’s womb were told: “Outside there is a world of life , with high mountains, great seas, undulating planes, beautiful gardens in blossom, a sky full of stars, and a blazing sun … And you, facing all these marvels, stay enclosed in this darkness …” The unborn child, knowing nothing about these marvels, would not believe any of this. Like us, when we are facing death. That’s why we’re afraid.
- But there can’t be light in death because it‘s the end of everything.
- How can death be the end of something which has no beginning? Hassan, my son, don’t be sad on my wedding night.
- Your wedding night?
- Yes. My marriage with eternity.”
(The Prince Who Contemplated His Soul) I like this ^^^^ ~ “We have been to the moon, we have charted the depths of the ocean and the heart of the atom, but we have a fear of looking inward to ourselves because we sense that is where all the contradictions flow together.”~ ― Terence McKenna *Psychonaut*
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