Haha,

Well, I do admire the Nexus of hardlining the topic. It would make us all seem more like lunatic fringe. KUDOS

Why? It was bound to happen anyways.

I don't get why people feel the need to place blame on somebody who actually has the balls to speak out in public about their experiences, and with good intentions. Im not a huge fan of him, but i like and respect the guy. Besides, its not like he single-handedley brought it to everyone's attention. There were many, many factors

If your going to blame Rogan you mine as well blame McKenna as well

I will respectfully leave my conspiracy theories at the door - although I do have my ideas about the hidden motives behind this ban on conspiracy theories on the Nexus ...


That said, I do hope Rupert Sheldrake's ideas aren't too far out there to discuss here? I am of course thinking of the well-known morphic resonance hypothesis. After the tipping point ('the hundredth ape' has been reached, an experience becomes embedded in the collective 'mind' of a species.



I love the fractal example, and how DMT/ the DMT experience is getting more and more iterations.



I saw a video lecture of Sheldrake the other day in which he gave the example, how for instance an extraction of a substance becomes easier once it has been accomplished for the first time.

Made me think

(Maybe I remember it wrong and he actually said 'synthesis of a substance' but in that case I still like to think this idea applies to DMT extractions as well ... )

sheldrake has some really interesting ideas and his new book is a great read so far, but i dont really see the need to resort to the ideas of morphic resonance to explain how something as mind blowing as dmt can be brought to mainstream attention. but who knows

Don't forget the Through the Looking Glass section exists to entertain and discuss the more far out ideas that are not appropriate for other parts of the forum.

I think Joe Rogan does have a lot to do with its expansion, but most likely there are other factors at play as well. I don't understand why so many people are afraid of more people experiencing this substance anyways. I don't feel people are as unprepared for this experience as many of you feel. If people are going to actually grow up. Which has to happen soon if our modern society is to survive. They're going to need the heavy stuff as hardly anyone is going to take you seriously or go through with shamanic breathing. Sure leading oneself slowly up to a heavier psychedelic is always preferred. But DMT even though the effects and experience being so profound is much more conducive to a first timer than say Ayahuasca, Mescaline, and even decent doses of LSD or Pscylocybin. In my experience I've never seen a first timer have a "bad trip" either in their experience or them doing something stupid under the influence. To those of you worried about MHRB becoming illegal, Its just a risk thats gonna have to be taken as it certainly doesn't look like it can be stopped anyway. It only takes seconds for the power to be on and for to be off, so as if we don't wake up and get our shit together to try and fix some of these problems your not going to be ordering mimosa offline.

Psychedelics is one of the only tools that is going to convey the knowledge to people to wake up to the wonders as well as the problems that is human kind.

There is a lot of mystery to DMT, and it is truly fascinating to try and figure whats really going on there. But it is endogenous. Which that aspect of it being suppressed. I think more people should have the opportunity to have an experience with DMT. The key is before though one must have a decently thorough knowledge of the substance and experience he or she is about to undergo. I have had many people not want to undergo the experience after gaining such knowledge.

That Drugs INC looked atrocious as far as publicity goes. Picking up what looks to be heavy drug addicts. Thats truly disheartening. I wouldn't be surprised if that one came as a special request from the dea.

wonder what was/will be the 100th monkey moment and what that really looks like from all sides and what's that all about anyway

Ya it's popular all right.

But it still aint popular enough.

SPREAD THE LIGHT!

There's NO WAY to Schedule ALL of Nature in its entirety, so baseless fears aside, IMHO this is EXACTLY what the DMT wants!!!! It is EVERYWHERE in Nature, and as IT sees fit, IT is seemingly availing itself to us, but ONLY as we've become ready for IT to do so... Given the rate of hyperconnectivity that the WWW facilitates, the message (or meme rather) has the ability to essentially "go viral", and grow on an EXPONENTIAL level...

If you think about it in these terms, it couldn't be MORE exciting... We're esentially on the cusp of a potential MAJOR GLOBAL consciousness shift into a world where understanding will trump commodity, and love will vanquish ANY need for "power" or "material object fetishism"...

Why fight information? It was bound to happen and it will continue to happen.

I'm not a Doctor though, I just play one on TV...

Is it bad to becomes more popular? I think as it becomes more known. People will try it and most will be scared to do it again or find it extremely healing.

I don't ever think DMT will be as popular as other mainstream medicinal plants such as marijuana.

It is a very tight niche that it fills. All psyches for that matter.

Just my opinion.

if all common / easy to extract spice containing plants end up banned or the supply hindered / stopped, then I bet some annoyed chemist will make a tek that can separate individually dmt and its related compound from grass extractions.

there is no need for this now as its easy to obtain, I believe when the need arises so will the tek.

I wonder how many of the 22ooo members registered here still use dmt on a regular basis.

depends on what you mean by regular, but i would hazard a guess and say that probably close to 75%


i'm just glad i got enough to last me an unforeseeably long time, right before it was too late (seriously like before i was finished with my extraction it was bye-bye mimosa.. didn't even get to save any for brewing ).
that being said phalaris still intrigues me greatly, and i want to try a full-spectrum jim-jam extract on it (get all those mystery alkaloids) and make myself a tryptamine cocktail (i feel like it would be great for changa).


but yes, we are definitely in need of a way for the simple home chemist to seperate various methylated tryptamines.

I'm guessing <5%.

Most people can't hang.

Everyones path has their own frequency of metabolization. There are a few patterns that arise, though: The honeymoon. The swear off. The daily. The weekly. The whenever the time is right. Phases.
Even for those who do not use, but have, the hyperspatial torrent of consciousness can play a key role in every moment and emotion. We are the gifted fishermen. Lucky and humble. If this resonates with you, and you have some crystalline medicine in a dark dry place, maybe it's time to speak up and see who else is hungry.

a1pha wrote:

..the truth is probably somewhere between these two percentages (i lean towards the lower figure)
one of the ways to define DMT as 'not a 'Drug'' is that it is not addictive..

however, the think the 5% represent two things:

1) the % of the population who in other cultures/the past would have been recognised as shamans, healers, deep thinkers etc..

2) as DMT becomes more popular, it becomes increasingly important for the community to develop the
knowledge of techniques (set and setting) and mental/psychological development which have usually been regarded by humanity as important for the successful ongoing use of 'entheogens'/shamanic tools..
the modern society has almost completely lost aspects of such knowledge..even lost words like entheogen..

i think DMT is a tool..to unlock the power of the mind..
a power tool..following the safety instructions carefully is what the community needs to advocate..

there has been plenty of information about DMT for 20 years..
(i'm sick of 'dmt messiahs' who pop up every through years trying to spread the word..it spreads by itself)
there is plenty of information on where to obtain it botanically..

integrating it into our incredibly material and psychological immature society is the work now..
.

Our future looks extremely bright in this respect. The best thing consciousness can do is continue discussing DMT and finding cheaper, safer, and easier ways to expand DMT's quantity and quality around the world.