I believe there is good information in this thread, however.....

It seems fairly common, that many noobs, don't have a 0.xxx scale, thus making this thread fairly useless without one...............

IMO

Great decision, good luck to you!


What about some Spice...?

This is true, this is just meant as a guide and gives insight as to how dosages can differ. So that way you can understand that without a scale how variable your experience is going to be without one. Do you absolutely need a scale? No. But some people, like me and others, prefer to be able to more accurately gauge the level of experience your going for OR conserve your spice better so it lasts longer.

Without a scale you can easily load two seperate doses and they could easily be off by 15mg or more. My fluffy new spice eyeballed looks like twice or three times the amount of my earlier batch of yellow slightly oilly spice.

Is a torch necessary? No. It all depends. But a lighter if used for GVG or a meth pipe style creates variable heat that isn't concentrated in a fine direction. Very slight amounts of wind that you don't even know is there pushes the heat around very easily and causes it to be extremely variable and inconsistent. It's all a matter if trial and error, and users preference. That's why this is just a GUIDE.

Anyone tried the stainless steel coil from vaporgenie eventually?
I bought it for weed, almost never used it...Could I "recycle" it for DMT?
I've read people suggesting it wouldn't work well for various reasons, but I couldn't find any actual report.
The GVG is way too expensive...

I would suspect that it wouldn't work for the same reason that the vapor genie bat does not produce good results. The position that you have to hold it (horizontally) was a major factor, as well as its short length iirc. The GVG is spendy, and unfortunately this makes it impossible as a purchase for some people. IMO you get what you pay for though. And the GVG performs admirably.

Put a few inches of tubing on the mouthpiece, so you can hold it vertically. The tubing will also give you good visual feedback and cooler vapor.

what about this fitting for a bong for vaping spice

i had a metal bong bowl version and it worked OK but temp control was pretty tricky, its pretty much the same as The Key.

Thanks for the tips guys.
In the meantime, I made a "machine" with a salt shaker, and it seems to work great, much better than my whip vaporizer.
I guess I'll stick to it for now and maybe try the steelcoil when I am more experienced with all of this.

(sorry for delay, I thought I had subscribed to the thread, seems I was wrong).

Can you upload a pic of the salt shaker?

If anyone can provide links to the best threads on devices for vaping DMT I am going to revamp the OP with updated info and clean it up a bit.

Need links for the machine, electronic vapes, ect.

not sure if there the best but i linked a load of threads on smoalking methods in the [HELP US CLEAN] Cleaning up the threads and posts thread, not sure how useful they will be but they might be worth a look.

Link to my machine in (sig) anrchy

Been using yours as a link since the beginning bud!

The sandwich could use a comprehensive explanation, if there isn't one already could someone create a thorough tek on it in the smoking section so I can link to it. I know somewhere there is a thread on elctronic vaporizers like the volcano and the like. Could someone track that down for me I am having a difficult time finding it.



Ya i looked through em and there wasnt much info. Im actually surprised there isnt as much about devices... although I shouldnt be cause the GVG is the only one anyone should ever use... hehehe. Oh and Changa! lol

Might be nice to include the The Inspirator mkII and The Key V2. I'm always surprised that the key isn't in the wiki nor in most discussions about vaping. It's usually gvg, machine, and/or sandwich method discussed.

I'll actually be posting about a version 3 of the Key I've developed but only used it to vape ganja so far. I have spice extracted, just waiting for the right time to go on my first journey. So I'm holding off posting till I know how well it works with the real stuff.

Good post, Definatly a good course on how to dose, SWIM went ahead and started with about 15-20mg and it all went right the first swing, so swim highly recommends this base line to start. He almost broke through with it. But still working on proper dose, its his first time making it from ACRB. AND testing it, but results are promising, Thanks for the guides, they all helped, an feed back is important! lol

Man, almost broke through this time.

As it started setting in after the first pull the mild humming started getting louder and louder. Visuals stayed pretty candyland like. But Something whispered to me to rip again and vape the rest of what was there. I did and held deeeep....

When i exhaled the humming got louder quickly, so layed bac and closed my eyes the Chrysanthemum, thats beutiful... First time at the door. But as i was leaving the door i heard a voice in a language that i didnt understand, it said " Come back, theres more we need to show you...", not in a bad way, but as an elder would want to teach something very knowalagable to me.

And as quick as it started it was over, there was a slow, contimplating decent back to reality but i soaked it all in and felt welcomed, Launching i dont think is gonna be as bad anymore for me after that, had launch anxiety, its pretty strong lol. "Like being strapped to a Saturn 5 rocket engine, blasting off, entering orbit , and slowly returning to earth." But that first parts a doosie!! Fast, Quick and Unpredictable, but now its pretty decent and i know how that ride feels like.

Jus gotta vape it, put a lil bit of bomb at the bottom of the bowl pack it tight and then drop your Spice on it, (no sandwich tecq.) An dont let the flame touch it jus vap it slowly, let it seeeep into the bomb or ash er wutever is your pref, but dont, burn, it.. vape it, its ok if the bomb er wutever, (not everybody smokes bomb) catches from u vaping it and ashes up and goes after the melted spice. It helps even more with the vape!

Well hope, to have a breakthrough with this tech, btw its a 4'' long glass pipe, no bong, jus gotta hooolllld it. This is what swim told me by the way...

Take care and God's Speed Everybody!

darklordsson, def recommend you consider a gvg or something of the like in the future. It really makes a difference IMO. Good luck on breaking through! Thanks for reading.





Done!

Thanks anarchy, Its been a lil tough gettin that breakthrough, but ill definatly invest in that vape you told me
Also, forgot to ask how would a dab setup work for dmt vaperizing? Like the kind u use for cannabis wax? Would it fry the dmt? Or would the compound be alterd? If at all while frying?

Ima click on it now an see wut i can find, Thanks my friend,

May the universe smile upon you!

I think I have read of some people trying it. To much heat and its toast. Convection is always better than conduction.

With the sand which method it make take more depending on if your baking all of it