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JacksonMetaller
#41 Posted : 9/11/2012 10:04:52 PM
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Try smoking a LOT of ganja (without a tolerance) on LSD and that will most certainly whisk you away to a land of pixies and fairy tales. Some people underestimate the power of weed because they smoke it too much, but over the several years I've been smoking I've kept it rather spaced out and tend to never build a noticeable tolerance. Two hits and I'm MESSED up. It's a psychedelic trip on it's own. I can actually get mild OEV's on weed alone and some serious perspective distortion.

That being said... Last year I was coming back from a Sphongle show. The scene was relatively dry so mediocre acid was pricey and I was only able to get two hits. The whole show I could barely tell I was tripping. A little mood improvement and some wavy stuff in my vision. It was only once they flipped on the lights that peoples faces were morphing and floral patterns were crawling all over the floor. Still not the best doses ever though. Well we got back to my friends place and proceeded to vape around 4 bowls of dank (remember that's a LOT for me. i'm normally too messed up to even function after one). When we started vaping the acid was almost completely out of our system. Almost no tracers or anything, just a very slight glow. By the end of our vape sesh there were dimensions ripping open into the ceiling and fictional movie scenes playing out on the other end of them. My friends and I's brains were completely snapped together and so on. Almost at an equal intensity of any DMT trip I've had. To this day, anytime I'm high I get mental flashbacks of the kinds of places weed+acid is capable of. If that was on the tail end of a weak acid trip I couldn't imagine the places you would go on the peak of a strong one Very happy

To relate more to what you said... I've always felt that LSD (and psychedelics in general) are more bizarre and unlike the expectations most people have. But I've always felt that LSD+weed is exactly what someone would expect when they think of LSD.
 

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#42 Posted : 9/12/2012 9:03:30 AM

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nope, sorry mate, i could smoke all the weed in the world and it wouldnt make any difference to the state of my acid trips, weed is never, in anyway, psychedelic for me, even with no tollerance or combined with other substances, i can never believe the tales of some people having DMT/LSD like effects from weed, seems like a very alien concept to me.

im pretty sure acid just doesnt do the trick for me, its good and i like it alot, but it is lacking in its visual componant, personally i would never consider it an entheogen, it feels more like a brain booster for me.

Maybe i will one day meet an LSD chemist who will be able change my mind, but until that day im pretty sure it just doesnt do to me what it does to other.
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#43 Posted : 9/12/2012 10:18:52 AM

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i can never believe the tales of some people having DMT/LSD like effects from weed, seems like a very alien concept to me.


I don't know mate...I had a few tokes of some local leaf in Thailand and definitely saw colourful psychedelic spiders coming for me in CEV's. Shocked
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#44 Posted : 9/12/2012 10:45:14 AM

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I don't know mate...I had a few tokes of some local leaf in Thailand and definitely saw colourful psychedelic spiders coming for me in CEV's. Shocked


i do.

Im not saying that people dont have these experiences, im sure they do, just like im not saying that people dont have divine encounters on LSD, again im sure they do.

But for me weed is just weed, it chills me out and thats about it. Ive been smoking for 15 years on and off, and i have never encountered anything out of the ordinary with weed i have got at home and was even slightly disapointed by the weed in Amsterdam, it was lovely but we sat and toked all day quite happily.

CEV's from weed would be a God send but sadly i have never even come close. Its a little like people saying to me "Well, you just havent had enough/quality LSD", well every batch of tabs i have ever consumed has led most of my friends to have lovely trippy classic LSD experiences from 1 or 2 tabs, while i will take upto 10 times more than them and its just pleasnt. like i said, im not a bragging, infact i am gutted with my tolerance for LSD
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#45 Posted : 9/12/2012 1:52:46 PM
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nope, sorry mate, i could smoke all the weed in the world and it wouldnt make any difference to the state of my acid trips, weed is never, in anyway, psychedelic for me, even with no tollerance or combined with other substances, i can never believe the tales of some people having DMT/LSD like effects from weed, seems like a very alien concept to me.

im pretty sure acid just doesnt do the trick for me, its good and i like it alot, but it is lacking in its visual componant, personally i would never consider it an entheogen, it feels more like a brain booster for me.

Maybe i will one day meet an LSD chemist who will be able change my mind, but until that day im pretty sure it just doesnt do to me what it does to other.


I never said it was like acid... Not at all. It's a totally different "psychedelic" effect. But the combination of them is utterly ridiculous. But I'm saying get a serious tolerance drop (like 2 hitter quitter style) then smoke loads and loads of ganja. Weed almost creates a canvas for the acid to really work it's magic. It's pretty much common knowledge that weed intensifies LSD trips. I realize not everyone gets the psychedelic aspects of weed alone like me, but I know stoners who've gotten blasted to the same lands on that combination. If it's not working for you on the peak, do it on the comedown when the acid isn't as overbearing.

As for the rest of your statements, I'm pretty convinced by your post that you've never had good acid. Sure you might not be whisked away to a land of fairies, but you should most certainly have intense experiences. Not body highs. I thought the same thing until one day I stumbled across real LSD and by mistake took a little too much. Needless to say, that completely changed my mind on LSD.

EDIT: just read the part where you said your friends had taken the same LSD. Honestly... My opinion on that is perhaps your friends are less sensitive or less experienced. Have they been exposed to DMT like you? I know kids who've gotten terrible acid and been like "OMG i'm tripping so hard."
 
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#46 Posted : 9/12/2012 2:15:02 PM

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JacksonMetaller wrote:
I never said it was like acid...

i never said you did


JacksonMetaller wrote:
It's a totally different "psychedelic" effect. But the combination of them is utterly ridiculous.


not for me

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But I'm saying get a serious tolerance drop (like 2 hitter quitter style) then smoke loads and loads of ganja.

If it's not working for you on the peak, do it on the comedown when the acid isn't as overbearing.


i have smoked at all times on acid, before during and after, and it just makes me a little stoned and on acid, infact its a little like smoking weed on MDMA, it seems to have less effect than when im straight.

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As for the rest of your statements, I'm pretty convinced by your post that you've never had good acid. Sure you might not be whisked away to a land of fairies, but you should most certainly have intense experiences. Not body highs. I thought the same thing until one day I stumbled across real LSD and by mistake took a little too much. Needless to say, that completely changed my mind on LSD.


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Its a little like people saying to me "Well, you just havent had enough/quality LSD", well every batch of tabs i have ever consumed has led most of my friends to have lovely trippy classic LSD experiences from 1 or 2 tabs, while i will take upto 10 times more than them and its just pleasnt.


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Maybe i will one day meet an LSD chemist who will be able change my mind, but until that day im pretty sure it just doesnt do to me what it does to other.


JacksonMetaller wrote:
EDIT: just read the part where you said your friends had taken the same LSD. Honestly... My opinion on that is perhaps your friends are less sensitive or less experienced. Have they been exposed to DMT like you? I know kids who've gotten terrible acid and been like "OMG i'm tripping so hard."


my friends dont really partake in DMT, but i think thats irrelevant, 99% of my LSD experiences have been before i took DMT and i would say my friends have average tollerance to most things, like most people.
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#47 Posted : 9/12/2012 5:59:07 PM
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I guess everyones different, but I'm just saying I've NEVER met anyone who didn't get blasted off into space with a good amount of weed and acid. Are/were you on any medications by chance?
 
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#48 Posted : 9/12/2012 7:37:24 PM

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I have no doubt I could be proved wrong, and I really really hope that one day I will be, but I'm not holding out much hopeSad

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#49 Posted : 9/13/2012 8:07:35 PM
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Non from a doctorVery happy

I have no doubt I could be proved wrong, and I really really hope that one day I will be, but I'm not holding out much hopeSad



eh hold in there man. good lucy is impossible to come across sometimes and some people are just easily impressed with the crap other people sell Very happy there's still hope! people over here were raving about the acid that was around so my friend got some and said it was the weakest most boring trip he's had. i know he knows his acid because i've tripped with him before and given him some stuff that blew his mind. but other people were thoroughly convinced this new stuff was the bomb.

TBH though if you enjoy DMT then acid is just "meh." don't get me wrong, you can go to totally different places which are worth visiting on LSD, but DMT is a firework show unlike any other. I didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if you've answered this already, but how do mushrooms affect you?
 
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#50 Posted : 9/13/2012 8:31:02 PM

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Never say never I guess, I will keep my fingers crossed.

Shrooms (lib caps)- not done them in about 8-10 years and when I did we would just run about in fields, look at the stars and giggle quite a bitVery happy

I never did them the McKenna way but I will be doing the silent darkness trip next month when the little fellas start popping up.

In terms of effect, well it was melty and very non stop physically, I never recall any CEV but that was never the intention, we just did shrooms to get waisted and have a good time. It will be interesting to see how they effect me now that I will give them my full attention.
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#51 Posted : 9/13/2012 10:49:05 PM
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Never say never I guess, I will keep my fingers crossed.

Shrooms (lib caps)- not done them in about 8-10 years and when I did we would just run about in fields, look at the stars and giggle quite a bitVery happy

I never did them the McKenna way but I will be doing the silent darkness trip next month when the little fellas start popping up.

In terms of effect, well it was melty and very non stop physically, I never recall any CEV but that was never the intention, we just did shrooms to get waisted and have a good time. It will be interesting to see how they effect me now that I will give them my full attention.


Haha yeah, I can't speak for liberty caps as I've only taken cubes, but if you enjoyed shrooms good LSD should be rather similar Very happy Of course it has it's own characteristics, but it shouldn't be any more "mellow" or less "trippy" than shrooms. The key to shrooms and acid is to trip with the right people imo. Some people it can just be a fun "let's get twisted" type of experience, but if you get someone who's into the really philosophical/mindexploring aspect of psychedelics, the interaction between you two can be incredible. It's not so much about the visuals as it is what you're mind starts doing. You can start to process your entire existence in a way that's unbelievable. Grasping concepts of infinity, etc. Of course you need a sufficient dose for that too. DMT doesn't really allow enough time for those sorts of mindsets to unfold.

Anyways I wish you luck and hope you stumble across the beauty of LSD someday.
 
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#52 Posted : 9/13/2012 10:58:19 PM

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Cheers mate
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