Have you even smoked DMT? Changa?

I have many, many times.

Never have I experienced anything close to what he reports. They sound like memories from a hyperspatial point of view, to me.

I hate to say it, but it sounds like Ant gets off on being some kind of emissary. Sorry, I will not blindly follow someone just because they can write good.
I also hate to sound so harsh but this is what I get from reading this.

This happened to me yesterday:




perhaps? Though i never get such clear visuals. these are all very much CEVs.

Acolyte, sounds like typical hyperspatial data gathering to me. Nothing like what Ant is claiming.

I am mellow, ya.
Have you smoked DMT or not?
Have you smoked it countless times to truly get a feel for hyperspatial parameters?
...Didn't think so...

Why don't you stay out of something you are unfamiliar with? Your posts come off as totally ridiculous to me for that reason.

Ant sounds like he's developed a complex and is creating a story that sounds good to him (and everybody else, apparently) from memories from his life.

I'd like to hear from him, not you, one of his blind followers.

I have noticed contradictions in his posts over the months and am simply seeking the Truth.

hm.... well i suppose that would be a fair evaluation, because my moment with the entity was brief and direct. AND i have never experienced an OEV, so my images are always suspect to my imagination.

BUT I CAN SAY the journey following that instruction was MUCH deeper and clearer than any before and it included BRIEF and dim CEV visits to alien worlds. I even picked up a Limited-Access Galactic Libary Card when i got bored ans asked to see a museum, it was a purple free-form crown like thing implanted into my psyche. but i left that part out of the Report because it seemd to weird to say!


all i can say is that this is my experience. it could have been my imagination. i just wish i could sit in other peoples minds and directly compare their experiences like the Entities do with us.... then all this arguing would make more sense!

I am sure Antrocles is not here for followers, nor is anyone following him.
I think you have a stick up your ass.

I am awaiting his feedback with a stick of truth up my ass

One of the difficulties we all have here is trying to describe experiences that are very subjective in nature. We only have language to convey our experiences to others, and more often than not, language isn’t sufficient. And because of this personal and subjective nature, our experiences are uniquely ours - they aren’t open to debate. If I honestly describe an experience to others, no one can rightly claim “You didn’t have the experience you described.”

However, once we start making claims about the physical world - the objective world to which we all have access – about the origins of life on earth, about evolution, about the future of mankind, etc. these things are the subject of debate. I encourage all members here to keep an open mind, but also to apply critical independent thinking regarding such claims. Blind acceptance is not very often a good thing.

My DMT experiences fall into 3 broad categories: those that are introspective and clearly reflect my conscious and subconscious mind, those that have elements that lead me to believe that “something” external is contributing to the experience in addition to my subconscious – “hybrid” experiences, and those that are, as I like to say “self-evidently real”.

The type of experience I get seems to be related to dose more than anything else. As dose increases, the less my own mind seems to be involved in the creation of what I experience.

Speaking again about my experiences, and I understand that others may experience things very differently, after a deep breakthrough – a “self-evidently real” mystical experience, there is no way that I would/could return for another journey the next day, or even the next week. I couldn’t return because I need ample time to integrate such a profundity, and I wouldn’t return because I’d consider it disrespectful.

We’re not in a competition people! At least I’m not.

good post gibran2!

I have to say it´s hard to keep a balanced view especially on dmt-related waters. One should be open minded, but being critical at times is equally as important. No disrespect towards Ant. I´m sure he believes in what he has written.

I'm not trying to be competitive...
I have simply noticed some things in his posts that contradict themselves, and just don't sound Real.
I am calling him out, sorry if this offends anyone, I am just seeking the truth.

When I wrote that this isn’t a competition, I wasn’t referring to you.

my brothers (and sisters)-

this was what i was most concerned about when i made my original post. i do not in any way claim to have any mystical 'upper hand' on anyone. in truth, i have always been one to strive to see the oneness in everything. my experiences with DMT have been so profound and incredible from day one, but then- EVERYONE'S journeys have been amazing and profound from what i've read. i simply assumed mine were unique in as much as i myself am unique.

house my dearest poet brother, to immedately get to your concerns.... i have used spice ALMOST every day for the past 16 months. i have been away on holiday to thailand for a three week stint when i could not journey and as well, the past 3 months have seen me struggling with a 'mystery illness' (which turned out to be a root canal gone south ) and during those three months i refrained from going as often simply because i have felt for some time that the body is a much more effective conduit for information transfer when it is strong. i've even felt in some journeys that i was the engine of some sort of machinery i would link up with. to say i have used it every day is, in honesty, not correct. however, if i am healthy i use it daily. if i had to break it down into days i would say that i have broken through 95% of the past 16 months.

as for my sensitivity to spice....i had my first true breakthrough at 40mg. almost immediately it began to take less and less. what i have been doing for some time has been to load a good amount of changa (approx. 100mg) into my GVG and just one deep, big hit will break me completely through. on this amount in my pipe i can go deeply into hyperspace AT LEAST 5-6 times. i can't explain it, it is just how it is. i am open to DMT...i could not be more willing to be taken.

how do i access the world and the crafts? in truth, i have no idea. it made itself present to me quite a long time ago but i WILL say that it has been a most definite process that i have undergone. intital journeys were very maternal and nurturing. later journeys became deeply infused with carrier wave transmissions that would try to talk with me. entities that at one time would only present themselves in a fleeting, disappearing, unable-to-focus on way slowly allowed more attention. glyphs and writing went from frustratingly elusive to laid out for my absorption.

i started being taken on crafts very early, but it has been only recently that i have been able to be at any sort of facility. i am destroyed completely and the minute i have any awareness (though still long beyond body) i have begun to be able to present myself as a separate part of a giant oneness that is trying to awaken. that's the best way i can put it. i have been granted (or have i developed it?) the ability to make my deepest intentions clear. this has made a tremendous difference.

i'll never forget my very first breakthrough. as i was coming back and completely floored by it, i distinctly remember being told EXTREMELY CLEARLY, "remember this. you are to remember this." i can tell all of you this much- i can remember almost every detail of almost every journey i've had. even the ego deaths. i am a record keeper. an engine. a part of something.

and i KNOW for a fact that i am not the only one.

i have no interest in followers. i am here because i have experienced the most awakening process of my life and you are the family i share this impossible to describe process with. your growth is as meaningful to me as my own. i share in the hopes that you all may help me make sense of things just as i try to help any who'll listen. i will write more when i return. ms. munki and i have a date now....

just know that i make no claims to be anything other than what i am. but i do know that i have applied certain qualities that have served me to be successful in other areas of my life and have been left wondering if those particular traits aren't equally helpful in this particular work...

facing fear. going through it. surrendering. not letting pain (fear) distract from my ultimate intent. having an intent to grow and be my fullest potential......KNOWING, in my heart of hearts, that i am much more than what i see in the mirror.

please do not ever think that i am trying to separate myself from any of you. i have PM'd, worked with, talked to, embraced and just plain LOVED all of you with all my heart. i am genuine. i am simply going through something that even i am caught off-guard by.

i will share more later...

WITH THE DEEPEST LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!

Thanks Ant.
I just feel like our human memories can be brought up in hyperspace and look so different. So crystalline, futuristic, ancient, alien, etc.
I think it's very easy to misinterpret this kind of defragmentation,
and our minds are incredibly creative machines......

I honestly have no idea what to make of it, but I really appreciate your perspective.
Thank you for getting back to me and not being offended.
I expressed my opinion, you expressed yours. I shall leave it at that.
Blessed be :]

i am glad that i get to work with you. you are a wonderful teacher. i am grateful, humbled...thank you brother..i look forward to our next meeting.

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Ya, you are now officially insane in my book...

Ya, we dont need a list of every post somebody has made, NOBODY else is going to read all those damn posts just so they understand your point..

this is between HOUSE and ANTROCLES..this has nothing to do with you at all...and if you dont cut it out with the damn lists of posts im gonna suspend you for some amount of time so you can think over what you are trying to accomplish

And antrocles took my skepticism maturely and responded appropriately, which I greatly appreciate. I feel my last response to his was appropriate as well. I've said enough, I just wanted some feedback. Thanks!
I may have said some things people disagree with but it was just what I was getting at the time. Now that he cleared things up, I do not feel the same way. Peace.

I am terribly sorry for bringing bad vibes along with my skepticism into this thread!

i feel nothing but love from all you guys, i fear that my sharing may have indeed created more irritation and doubt than it has investigation of the possibities it presents. i have only ever wanted to contribute and help with any and all of my postings and responses.

house- i know you want, at your very heart, to understand and help with what i'm going through. i have felt the same way when reading your posts. as for inconsistencies in what i've posted over the time i've been here, i'm sorry if that has been the case! i wasn't aware that i had been this way and i will make great effort to be more mindful in the future. i truly feel as though i have been absolutely forthcoming from my very first post here. i am certainly making no efforts to make things up or elaborate anything in any way. the reality of my experiences is beyond anything i ever could....

not to mention the fact that i have never felt such an immense growing in every facet of my being through my work with the molecule. i have truly embodied every lesson i have been taught and humbly reenter hyperspace with as much of an empty cup as i can manage. my relationship with DMT is powerful....if others do not/cannot see the things i see, i would offer them my eyes. my heart. my mind. i do this with my words in the most altruistic hopes that we may all grow from whatever can be made of what i receive.

i truly care for you all. this isn't new agey shuck and jive. more than friends, family or ANYONE in my immediate life ,YOU folks share with me a common experience that noone that has not gone 'there' before can understand. we are, in the most pure expression of the term, family. we share something that is as wonderous, mysterious and inspirational as the life itself that we live which enables us to go there in the first place. it is, in a sense, like a separate life that only a handful of us are brave enough to begin.

the trick is to have compassion and support one another as we each fan off into different nooks of this infinite new world. we report back on our particular trail we blaze and the artifacts and knowledge we uncover. we pool this web of differing experiences and attempt to creat some sort of grid-based map of something that, at least for now, seems un-mappable. it is important that we at least take a moment to consider the possibility that what we experience might actually be....what we experienced.

i understand the gyst of the psychological explanations that could account for what i experience when i consume DMT. they are born out of minds that exist in a world i am quite familiar with. there is a growing part of myself that is firmly convinced that they don't necessarily apply in that place. that being said, i myself have put the clamp down on those who have gone down god-complex roads and delusional lines of thought. the one thing i would ask to consider in my posting here is this- i have never shared this information in this manner before. i was EXTREMELY reticent to post it for fear of exactly what seems to be happening now (house- i'm not singling you out here. since i made this post, i have received a couple PMs telling me to 'just chill out' ).

in short, if i must say so myself, i am one of the most self-aware individuals you'll come across. i would not ever post something purely for shock-value, to boast, to elicit some sort of guru response from a community i rely on as much or more than anyone might ever rely on me. this is not 'how i roll."

i suppose if there was only one thing i could suggest to any who would take umbrage to anything i have posted, i would simply ask for a compassionate consideration that maybe....just maybe....i'm simply telling it like it is for me.

i am in no way offended or angered by anything posted here or in PM to me. i said it before i posted it...i understand how it must read. i will continue my work and i will continue to share each and every discovery in the hopes that we may one day discover just what we are working with. just keep in mind that i am not actively looking for something.....something just appears to have found me.

WITH THE DEEPEST LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!

P.S. YA- thank you for having my back dear brother. i understand the love behind your posts. i am happy to talk about any part of my work with anyone who would question it. we are all trying to do whatever we individually feel is right with something that is as amorphous and infinite in potential as life itself. i appreciate you making the effort to show others the spirit of my past postings but ultimately, small inquistions/disputes/challenges of these sort are best left to be answered by the person to whom they are directed. house is a dear friend and brother, just as you are. had i been online anytime sooner i would have responded sooner myself. thank you again though for your good intentions.