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Dimitrius
#21 Posted : 1/15/2010 5:33:05 PM

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....though the tek seems to be time consuming


haha, yeah, it definitely IS that.


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amor_fati
#22 Posted : 1/15/2010 5:49:00 PM

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Dimitrius wrote:
So one would make the paste, using the minimal amount of water as usual, and then add the warm heptane without even drying the paste? This presents no issues?


Yep as long as it's not too runny, it can be decanted quite easily (everything stays in a pasty mass at the bottom).

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What is SWIY's best method for getting a non-toxic, full-range freebase that can be weighed without trouble?...i.e., not gooey, sticky or oily. SWIM would really like to know.


https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Amor_f...eebase_Conversion_of_DMT The picture at the beginning of the appendices shows products from both methods (drytek and nontoxic), as well as a little one from a simple water rextal of some flakes from the the first set. This chunks are dry and hard like clay, and can be handled residue free.

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Is it the "Procedure for Nontoxic Conversion of Full-Range Fumarate Extract of Jurema to Freebase w/ Hasty Manual Crystallization" posted in the Wiki?


Yes, and just today, he made a more generallized version for the handbook.

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Yeah, they don't appear to be. However, the 'salt' (presumably sodium/or/calcium fumarate) was suspended in the IPA and slowly settled to hovering just above the completely settled sodium carbonate or calcium hydroxide.


This happens somewhat with acetone as well and is why SWIM used to use THP for that.
 
Dimitrius
#23 Posted : 1/15/2010 8:27:29 PM

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amor_fati wrote:
Dimitrius wrote:
So one would make the paste, using the minimal amount of water as usual, and then add the warm heptane without even drying the paste? This presents no issues?


Yep as long as it's not too runny, it can be decanted quite easily (everything stays in a pasty mass at the bottom).


Sweet. SWIM may have to try this if he decides to use heptane again.

amor_fati wrote:
Dimitrius wrote:
What is SWIY's best method for getting a non-toxic, full-range freebase that can be weighed without trouble?...i.e., not gooey, sticky or oily. SWIM would really like to know.


https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Amor_f...eebase_Conversion_of_DMT The picture at the beginning of the appendices shows products from both methods (drytek and nontoxic), as well as a little one from a simple water rextal of some flakes from the the first set. This chunks are dry and hard like clay, and can be handled residue free.


Hmmm, can't tell any difference really, other than the smoother appearance of the little one on the far right.

SWIM definitely wants a full-spectrum jimjam from his next conversion.

The drytek conversion is essentially what SWIM has been doing, utilizing anhydrous IPA in the place of acetone. He likes the idea of using anhydrous magnesium sulfate to dry the paste. That should hasten things a bit.

amor_fati wrote:
Dimitrius wrote:
Is it the "Procedure for Nontoxic Conversion of Full-Range Fumarate Extract of Jurema to Freebase w/ Hasty Manual Crystallization" posted in the Wiki?


Yes, and just today, he made a more generallized version for the handbook.


By the way, what SWIY has done with the Wiki is looking very good! Wink

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amor_fati
#24 Posted : 1/15/2010 8:46:22 PM

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Dimitrius wrote:
Hmmm, can't tell any difference really, other than the smoother appearance of the little one on the far right.


Yeah there really isn't, which SWIM actually takes to indicate that the manual crystallization procedure is somewhat of equalizer in terms of purity. Forcefully exposing the surface are of the product and condensing it seems to eliminate a great deal of the possible solvent contamination--possibly damn near all of it. But since SWIM can do it fastest with just water, he leans in favor of the nontoxic technique.

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By the way, what SWIY has done with the Wiki is looking very good! Wink


Why thank you!
 
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