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jamie
#21 Posted : 1/4/2014 3:40:25 PM

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AgentClaret wrote:
Well, that's an elaboration of what I'm asking! How does one test for the presence of DMT, 5-MEO, etc.? Ir there's such a wide variation in strains then it seems like it'd be prudent to assay each one to see what your getting into. I'm merely asking if there's any precedence in doing this so I know where to start looking.

And of course phallaris is a source of other alkaloids, pretty much every DMT containing substance is. But DMT is presumably what one is looking for so forgive my particular interest in that.

So you've condescended to me, likened me to an amateur and mocked my choice of words. I'm not feeling the love, my friend!

I'm an avid reader but I think you can admit there's a LOT to brush up on here, right? Even spending several hours browsing FAQs a day I'm still going to need some time to catch up to your level. If you insist on me getting there the hard way without the benefit of those who've gone before me, then it will be a more difficult path but I can surely do it!


The information you asked for was in those links..and all over the FAQs. The reason why I dont want to just give people the information is to purposly discourage the people who wont bother to go read themselves and spent the time it takes to get up to date on all of this. I have written up post after post after post about this..and it is in the threads I made and in the wiki.

DMt is what a lot of people are looking for, but wth many grasses you are going to get much more than DMT even with the gramine and hordenine removed..which was my point. There is no easy way to get around this right now. I cant help you with that. Someone is going to have to figure it out. Until that happens you are going to have to deal with other alkaloids..or learn sublimation.

Dont take this so personally and instantly get offended. I am only telling you this so that you go and read as much as you can so that you understand all of this. You will get more out of reading all the info compiled than you will me or others just making a post with quick notes.

You should also go through all of the old phalaris info in the ayahuasca analogues edition of the Entheogen Review.
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jamie
#22 Posted : 1/4/2014 3:49:37 PM

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Here is a link for the Entheogen Review Ayahuasca analogues issue

http://www.erowid.org/li...ues_dekorne_complete.pdf
page 85 is the phalaris section
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AgentClaret
#23 Posted : 1/4/2014 4:52:17 PM
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Right on, misunderstanding!

And really, I HAVE read some of your stuff, concerning your batches of phallaris and the different effect presumably concerning other alkaloids. You've got to be one of the more knowledgeable folks on the net about phallaris.

I just get annoyed when a beginner (in anything) asks something and the experts pretty much say 'Figure it out for yourself." Which I guess isn't what you were doing (tone is sometimes hard to glean through text, huh?), but tons of people do and I guess I got wary of it.

So anyways, as long as there's not anything lethal about any of the alkaloids, I might as well plant my seeds come spring (as to indoor or outdoor I haven't decided yet; out would be easier but I could theoretically control alkaloid levels if I play with it indoors). Not sure of the best local yet but I DO abutting with a nature preserve. Actually, I oughta just learn to visually identify phallaris and go look out there. I've always been terrible at IDing plants visually even though I'm great with mycology.
 
jamie
#24 Posted : 1/4/2014 7:51:59 PM

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go out to any wetland area, or any area really where grasses grow, and start ID'ing all of the grasses. You will get the hang of phalaris ID really fast this way. Take pictures of them and compare them to pictures online.

If you have aquatica your chances of a cleaner DMT/5meoDMT profile are probly higher. I wish aquatica grew wild around here. You might have brachystachys and canariensis locally as well if you have aquatica. Both are worth looking into.
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