The fear is a good thing my friend! Very healthy!

Glad you are on the mend!

all the effects point to nbome overdose.



Uhhh..Im a little lost here.. what ia a ..[nbome?]]]

À la wikipedia, 2C-X-NBOMe molecules are derivative of the 2C family of phenethylamines described by Alexander Shulgin in his book PiHKAL.

Did you miss a key piece of information before this? I think just saying you won't do it anymore won't cut it. Unless you have strong support around you to help out. Alcohol to me is the slippy substance as most things within reach are that much closer.

Do you regularly drink 3 bottles of wine?

I myself can't stomach wine.

Wow my heart goes out to that guy. What a mess, that is a tough job you have seeing something like that would make me feel terrible. Poor guy, it's a crime that psychedelics are not legal and information freely available.

In reply to soulfood , I don't usually drink . I use to drink daily but now I've lost interest. I drink occasionally . I don't want to say but I will and I'm not bragging but I have the highest tolerance for alcohol I've ever come across. I'm not a small guy nor obese but I have been known to drink up to 5 bottles of red or an entire case (24) cans of beer or 1 and a half bottles of bourbon over a few hours and still party all night with friends. I repeat I am not bragging nor am I proud of that but it's the honest truth. Many a time I'm the last man standing when others are falling over drunk , vomiting and losing consciousness. I still get blackouts (memory loss) and intense crippling hangovers just like anyone else. Anyway I don't do this often as I've cut off most of my crazy friends and keep to my own company therefore I have no reason to get that drunk thanks for the post Soulfood, as for the others who read this, I know Ive opened myself up to trolling now by sharing about my drinking but it really doesn't bother me . If anyone reads this and feels the need to belittle me to make themselves feel better it's ok. Words cant hurt me . I've been to hell and back in my life and I'm immune to small minded cyber bullies. I respect people who can face someone physically face to face not on a keyboard behind a screen.

I read all posts and thankyou all who wish me well, you know who you are and my best wishes to you all.

Glad you're okay - what you did was, as you know, extremely stupid and reckless, but we all deserve the chance to learn from our mistakes. Some sober reflection and working toward repairing your body and mind is a good place to begin, and I wish you luck and courage.

If you feel like people here are coming down on you too hard, you should understand that it's partly because due to our utterly insane laws and backward, bought-out media, one's personal mistakes are never merely personal when we're speaking of illegal drugs. If you HAD died, we can all imagine the headlines, further stigmatizing those of us who are able to use these substances responsibly.

LSD is often not LSD these days. Please consider striking it off your list.

Everyone says that. But it's so not true. Although there are tons of idiots trying to make a buck with that new synthetic junk right now, there has always been the danger of doi or dob instead of acid but that's only happened once out of hundreds of doses ime. It's all about knowing where you're getting it because if 10 people you know familiar w lsd think it's lsd then it probably is. The only time my dog ever came across a bitter blotter I knew it wasn't lsd because people had tried it before me. Being a dumb dog he ate it anyways, albeit w careful dosing.

Yeah I'll give lsd a miss for a bit. I trust the old taste test "if it's bitter it's a spitter" as they say but I just need time to reboot my brain before reloading any heavy trips of any type. I will do dmt and weed but I'll space my dmt sessions out. Its not really an abusable drug for me anyway. Thanks Shane I'll take that advice. Thanks everyone above.

Did you miss the warning that was stated earlier in this thread that no talk about buying/selling is allowed? That you posted this anyway means that your chances of ever becoming a full member is now highly compromised.

The next one who starts talking about buying/selling in this thread will get a one way ticket to banland!

Read our Attitude page and comply to it or leave, there is no excuse for not using your brain.


The Traveler

That's all fine and good sir. No need to explain yourself on the matter. I'm probably more of a drinker than a psychonaut these so I too am open for trolling.

My actual reason for asking was to check you hadn't had a bad day or were going through depression of sorts.

I recently made a conscious decision to stop drinking alone as this is usually when I fuck up, use other substances improperly etc. Usually either caused I'm:

a) Pissed off.

b) Bored.


.... mainly

I saw a talk recently by Professor David Nutt, he's a leading neuropsychopharmacologist and probably one of the foremost experts on drugs in the UK and the world, and he's a great guy to boot.

He said if he had one piece of advice to give on drugs above all else, it would be this:

"Never drink and drug."

A lot of people fear psychedelics because of a fear of losing control. Well excessive alcohol absolutely causes loss of control, but it does it in a much more sly way than psychedelics. And this state comes at an increased amount of risk to the individual and people around them. Combining alcohol with other drugs markedly increases the risk of problems or accidents, so looking at this case, combining very large quantities of alcohol with very large quantities of a research chemical known to have uncertain physical margin between active dose and over dose, while ingesting multiple substances, really is asking for trouble, as I'm sure you are well aware.

I wish you all the best in your recovery, but please do think about how your actions affect, you, the people in your life and the wider psychedelic community.

Damn good advice.

For myself I don't mix cannabis with other substances either as personally it doesn't work for me.

If I am going to mix drink with psychedelics I usually dose first and have a little to drink once it's settled. The risk of drinking too much under the influence of psyches is far less than dosing too much under the influence of drink.

Me too. And i agree with you about psychedelics and alcohol. I have had some very pleasant experiences mixing the two. Moderation is the key. Sometimes this knowledge is hard won.



I see your point, but round this neck of the woods the great dicatator's word is law! He is the first in the firing line if it all goes tits up.



I do not think he is on par with Adolf Hitler. Worrying about the site getting shut down and being arrested is not akin to the final solution.

Dont toss the STP! I use DOM and can attest to its safety. It is still a phenethylamine, so there is a certain quantity of cardiovascular load you'll have to deal with, but i can be really useful if you use it correctly. Anyways, NBOMEs are pretty much the worst RC psychedelic I've seen floating around. Theyre INCREDIBLY cardiotoxic. I also think it has a good deal of addictive potential, as it has been the only psychedelic I had to say "fuck this, there's nothing useful here" to. I had a two or three week phase where I was tripping pretty regularly on it, and since then I've had persistent coldness in my hands and feet. I think I did some real damage, and I can't stress enough how NOT SAFE these drugs are. More people than not who have used NBOMES regularly have said that they don't believe that they are safe. Be warned.

I heard DOM is pretty safe too. I may hold on to it, but to be honest I have taken 5mg blotters several times even 2 at a time and have barely noticed any effect. Maybe I have tolerance issues due to the regular use of mushroom and nbomes, or maybe the laying of blotters was uneven . I'm curious to know if it even works when laid on blotter paper. I'll give it 6 months and maybe try it again with a clean system and hopefully it will work for me. It is a rare substance so I will hold on to it. I only have a couple left anyway.

What I'm really curious about, is if anyone has suffered from muscle collapse when on mushroom ? I love my mushrooms and have been picking for years but the last 4 experiences Ive had my knees just drop out or my eyelids droop . I just laughed it off but after my OD The other day I need to know if its just me or my mushroom is getting old and toxic ? Is that even possible ?. I grind the dried mushroom to a thin powder and freeze them year round. The potency has not diminished. I have seen threads on this site where people are asking the same questions so its not just me . I usually don't do more than 3-5 grams in hot water which I just gulp down, effects come in 20-40 minutes and I have never been really sick. Mild cramps or mild nausea sometimes but never had to purge. I have seen others get sick but after purging they are ok. I forgot to mention that I have had wine in my system when I have had this weakness in my legs or Ive been drinking the night before . It cant just be the wine surely ? When I drink wine on its own I don't lose coordination of my legs like this, muscles don't just give out on me.

Absolutely maddening dose. Hard lesson learned.

NBOMes alone have cause very abnormal effects on my own body and I refuse to indulge in them since I really took notice of the risk. 25i with it's vasoconstricting effects was one thing, 25C was even worse for that. You took high doses of both of of these and then threw another agonist into the mix with a ridiculous dose of shrooms... yikes.

Alcohol - whilst it makes it easier to do something very stupid - may have gave you just enough vasodilation to save your life, which is pretty funny because it also helped nearly kill you in the first place