We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
PREV12
Embarking on my first ever TEK as I type... Options
 
arcologist
#21 Posted : 9/18/2013 6:12:24 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 503
Joined: 11-May-2013
Last visit: 29-Nov-2020
No worries about oxidizing the DMT, I use a fan to air-dry all the time and it doesn't change anything.

I put my solvent in the freezer for usually 12 hours, but I generally just wait until the solvent is no longer cloudy and I can see the crystals clearly through it. If it is cloudy, there's still DMT floating in there that hasn't coalesced.
 

Explore our global analysis service for precise testing of your extracts and other substances.
 
cyb
#22 Posted : 9/18/2013 7:12:16 AM

DMT-Nexus member

Moderator | Skills: Digi-Art, DTP, Optical tester, Mechanic, CarpenterSenior Member | Skills: Digi-Art, DTP, Optical tester, Mechanic, Carpenter

Posts: 3574
Joined: 18-Apr-2012
Last visit: 05-Feb-2024
Quote:
Can someone tell me that the above quote is daft?

It's daft...
The only way I can see that happening is if the fan used was a hot hairdryer and it melted the Xtals to Goo.
Cold fans only...
Please do not PM tek related questions
Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
 
lazy shaman
#23 Posted : 9/18/2013 8:56:12 AM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
Fantastic, I have ultimate faith in the tek, there is no tek but tek and it is tek. Or something of that order.

Solvent is much less cloudy now after a quick peek into the freezer, lots of yellow crystals forming on the bottom.

Plan is to proceed to next stage in a few hours.

1. Pour glass of wine.
2. Pour excess naptha into another tray and freeze that over night (this was suggested by either dooby or magic on chat as a means to ensuring all the spice is extracted).
3. Put dishes up against a wall in a cool, dry room, with a small cold fan on low speed pointed directly at them.


All good? All good.
 
lazy shaman
#24 Posted : 9/18/2013 10:08:54 AM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
right...dont know who has been keeping tabs on my progress so far but just taken the pulls out of the freezer and am currently fan drying/evaping two dishes. there was a fair bit of excess naptha in them *which had visible crystals freefloating around*, so i put that in another dish and back in the freezer. will leave it 12 hours and check it then, but if the crystals in it dont anchor to the glass what can i do?

i am pedantic, this i know, but have been loving the help from this thread as well as the chat forum thingy!
 
3rdI
#25 Posted : 9/18/2013 10:14:12 AM

veni, vidi, spici


Posts: 3642
Joined: 05-Aug-2011
Last visit: 22-Sep-2017
when I you take the naphtha out of the freezer, after it has finished freeze preciping, I pour the naphtha through a coffee filter into a jar, this will catch any floaters, then I trap a coffee filter between the lid of my freeze precip tray and its lid, then I put the tray back in the freezer upside down and on an angle for an hour to allow the remaining solvent to run off, then take out and place in front of a fan for a half hour and then scrape
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

fool of the year

 
steppa
#26 Posted : 9/18/2013 10:20:33 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 970
Joined: 01-Dec-2012
Last visit: 01-Mar-2024
lazy shaman wrote:
but if the crystals in it dont anchor to the glass what can i do?


You could evap off some of the naphta to get it more saturated or just reuse it next time.
Everything is always okay in the end, if it's not, then it's not the end.
 
lazy shaman
#27 Posted : 9/18/2013 10:38:36 AM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
managed to spoon out all of the naptha leaving the freefloating crystals in the dish so now have three dishes being caressed by my wee fan Laughing

naptha left is yellow and cloudy. this is indicative of.............? dmt saturation? contemplating freezing this to encourage xtals, or better to leave off and use for a future pull as suggested above?
 
3rdI
#28 Posted : 9/18/2013 10:45:29 AM

veni, vidi, spici


Posts: 3642
Joined: 05-Aug-2011
Last visit: 22-Sep-2017
are you evaping the naphtha you used to freerze precip?
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

fool of the year

 
lazy shaman
#29 Posted : 9/18/2013 10:56:52 AM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
its sitting in a jar just now. i can either refreeze, pour it into a dish and evap, or keep it for a future cook.

what do you suggest? theres about 100ml of it.
 
3rdI
#30 Posted : 9/18/2013 10:59:52 AM

veni, vidi, spici


Posts: 3642
Joined: 05-Aug-2011
Last visit: 22-Sep-2017
save it, no point in waisting it.
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

fool of the year

 
lazy shaman
#31 Posted : 9/18/2013 11:17:49 AM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
Results so far:

1 small pile of white/yellow powder, completely dry.

1 small pile of brown oily/sticky 'gunk'

1 small pile of tan/yellow 'gunk'

The 'gunk' is stuck together in a worm like shape, like a line of sticky hash.

What is my next step?

Should I do something with the stickier 'gunk' (re-x), or leave it as is?

 
3rdI
#32 Posted : 9/18/2013 11:33:37 AM

veni, vidi, spici


Posts: 3642
Joined: 05-Aug-2011
Last visit: 22-Sep-2017
if you scrape the gunk round it should harden. Or re-x it if you want something a bit purer
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

fool of the year

 
lazy shaman
#33 Posted : 9/18/2013 12:33:02 PM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
not really enough to warrant re-x so will leave it as it is!

now got to wait until next week for my vapor genie to arrive to test this stuff out!

very happy with the tek, only did 3 pulls because of time constraints, know there is more in there but this was only a test batch after all Smile

will try to post pictures into this and let you know what the smoke is like !

cheers!
 
cyb
#34 Posted : 9/18/2013 12:59:10 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Moderator | Skills: Digi-Art, DTP, Optical tester, Mechanic, CarpenterSenior Member | Skills: Digi-Art, DTP, Optical tester, Mechanic, Carpenter

Posts: 3574
Joined: 18-Apr-2012
Last visit: 05-Feb-2024
Quote:
only did 3 pulls

Surprised Sacrilege...

Do more pulls...squeeze that bark dry....Thumbs up

and smoke the goo...it should harden a bit over the week
Please do not PM tek related questions
Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
 
lazy shaman
#35 Posted : 9/18/2013 1:39:18 PM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
I know I know, I am a heretical blasphemer, such is my burden. Twisted Evil

Need to procure different vessels and wait for a turkey baster, all shops in this city are closed for a few days due to a public holiday, so need to hold of.

Will the mix (without naptha) keep nicely for at least another 3 days, or is that pushing it?

On a side note, Cybs I thank ye from the bottom of my blasphemous soul, very easy TEK to follow.

I find it strange that I got a wee pile of real nice fluffy powder, and a bigger pile of oily deep orange though, is this normal? Does one just go ahead and smoke the juicier stuff in the same manner? I've only ever had dry powder before.

The fluffy powder came from all the free-floating crystals that remained in the naptha, which I then drained off and carried out evap with a fan.

 
lazy shaman
#36 Posted : 9/18/2013 1:40:43 PM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
Photos
 
poochandme
#37 Posted : 9/18/2013 4:31:16 PM
DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 14
Joined: 29-Aug-2013
Last visit: 26-May-2015
Location: Earth
thanks for posting thisSmile I will be attempting my first batch today using this method as wellSmile soooo stinkin excited
 
lazy shaman
#38 Posted : 9/19/2013 6:45:34 AM

Konsult your Pineal Gland


Posts: 33
Joined: 24-Aug-2013
Last visit: 29-May-2014
poochandme wrote:
thanks for posting thisSmile I will be attempting my first batch today using this method as wellSmile soooo stinkin excited



Great! Good luck!

If it helps at all here are the notes I wrote up whilst carrying out the tek.

Notes for 1st Attempt at Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek: 17th September, 2013 (started at 7pm)

1. Measured out 50g Mimosa Hostilis bark which had been shredded with additional blending.
2. 200ml of deionized water was brought to the boil in a pan with 60ml of apple-cider vinegar.
3. Added vinegar/water mix to the bark (which is in a 1.2l glass jar with hard plastic lid) at 7.30pm, mixed around. (question: is the vinegar too hot?)
4. Put Mix into bath of hot water at 7.35pm.
5. 8.40pm put 30g of rock salt into 100ml of hot deionized water. Not enough water for salt to dissolve so added a further 50ml of water. Once salt was dissolved added it to the Mix.
6. Added 50g of NaOH flakes to 200ml of deionized water, mixed until dissolved. Added this to the Mix at 9pm and left in a hot bath of water for 2 hours.
7. Added 50ml of naptha at 11pm. (also, an extra 15ml of naptha because of extra water before...was this correct?) Mixed thoroughly.
8. Put Mix in hit bath at 11.07pm.
9. 11.56pm first sign of separation so remixed.
10. 12.17am second remix.
11. 12.32am third remix.
12. 12.48am fourth remix.
13. Note: Initially it took a long time for separation to occur. This did cause some consternation but after waiting for an extra period of time clear separation occurred.
14. At 1am decanted some of the Mix into smaller vessel to see if separation would be more visible.
15. 1.19am put this back into the main vessel.
16. 1.54am acting on the advise of Cyb I added 50ml extra naptha.
17. 3am. Mixture clearly separated. Removed from main vessel and into a shot glass with small medicine dropper. Then removed from the shot glass and into a perspex dish which was put into the freezer (1st pull). Note: Had a two stage removal of naptha from the Mix into the perspex dish to ensure none of the black part of the liquid was sucked up.
18. 3.15am. Added 50ml of naptha to Mix and put in hot bath.
19. 4.10am. Removed naptha through the same process as before and added to a perspex dish which was then put into the freezer.
20. 6pm the next day. The 2 dishes with the naptha were removed from the freezer. Naptha was poured out and into a 3rd perspex dish. Could see free-floating white crystals in the naptha. Naptha was spooned out of this 3rd dish and stored in a jam jar.
21. In an air-conditioned room the 3 jars were placed against a wall and a slow, cold fan was positioned in front of them.
22. After 1 hour dishes were completely dry and smelling like DMT (new trainers/delicious chemical smell, no naptha smell present).
23. Scraped the dishes with a razor blade and ended up with three different piles. 1St and 2nd dishes produced deep orange/brown-yellow sticky/oily spice. 3Rd dish produced lovely yellow-white powder, perfectly dry.
24. Scraped the oily spice out to dry for a further one hour. However, still stick.
25. Not sure of amount produced but did not do as many pulls as I intended to or recommended.


Thoughts:

The only issue I had with this cook was my choice of vessel for the Mix. The hard plastic lids couldn't deal with the heat and shattered. Must use suitable vessels next time, narrower glass jars with a capacity of over 1l and metal lids would be perfect. Also, I wonder why some ended up as an oily spice whilst the rest was nice and fluffy. The fluffy spice came from the free-floating crystals in the excess naptha. Maybe I need to freeze for longer than 13 hours?
 
dooby
#39 Posted : 9/19/2013 10:59:15 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 345
Joined: 05-Sep-2013
Last visit: 06-Nov-2015
Thanks for the write-up...

About the oily spice: perhaps r-xing?

Or, depending on whether or not you believe in the presence of dmt n-pxides in the oily goo, you could consider doing a conversion into n,n-dmt using zinc?

Or dissolve it in some acetone and infuse it onto some herbs...

In any case: enjoy the fruits of your labour!

PLUR



My avatar was taken from google images and is actually a work of art by NEIL GIBSON, credit where credit is due!


Bodies don't have souls - souls have bodies


Old enough to know better, young enough to try again
 
PREV12
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.052 seconds.